Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-05-08 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, May 8, 2021, 7:22 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A > > Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and > > keep it on a Tails USB stick and use

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-05-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A > Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and > keep it on a Tails USB stick and use it only for certifying other keys. > > Day to day work (mes

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Brian
On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 21:21:32 +0200, ellanios82 wrote: > On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote: > > An observation from a native English speaker - > > > > I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly > > good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I foun

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread ellanios82
On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote: An observation from a native English speaker - I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it much more difficult than Chinese. Chinese has different sounds,

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Curt
On 2021-03-23, Viktor Vogel wrote: > An observation from a native English speaker - > > I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly > good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it > much more difficult than Chinese. > I remember seeing an inter

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Viktor Vogel
An observation from a native English speaker - I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it much more difficult than Chinese. Chinese has different sounds, and tones that need to be mastered, but

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 23-03-2021 06:06, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic >> roots. > > You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French? > And I mean not only speaking, but also writing Yes, once you understand the

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread John Hasler
deloptes writes: > You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than > French? I have no experience with Chinese but I found Russian harder than French (though I've pretty much forgotten both). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic > roots. You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French? And I mean not only speaking, but also writing

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 23-03-2021 05:47, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> Yes. >> But, once there, far better to learn the language. >> The resultant experience is well worth it. >> The money is not the same, but the cost of living is much lower. >> Cheers! > > I was thinking to go to Chech Republic or Russia -

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > Yes. > But, once there, far better to learn the language. > The resultant experience is well worth it. > The money is not the same, but the cost of living is much lower. > Cheers! I was thinking to go to Chech Republic or Russia - found the language easier, but thanks anyway - wil

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 19:00, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> They have some excellent language schools and, being surrounded by it, >> it's a fast way to learn. > > you mean I can look for a position in China without knowing Chinese? Yes. But, once there, far better to learn the language. The resu

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Joe
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 01:20:02 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > > term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same > as other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true > nature is criminal group, as described in bill by US senator > All governments are criminal g

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > They have some excellent language schools and, being surrounded by it, > it's a fast way to learn. you mean I can look for a position in China without knowing Chinese?

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 18:13, deloptes wrote: > Long Wind wrote: > >> where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, >> this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in >> china? > > my problem is the language, otherwise we could switch for couple of years to

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, > this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in > china? my problem is the language, otherwise we could switch for couple of years to exchange experience

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Larry Martell
LOn Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:49 PM Long Wind wrote: > where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, > this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in china? > I know quite a few Chinese people who lived in the US for 5-8 years and could have easily s

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread John Hasler
deloptes writes: > The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing You think you know what China is doing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 16:49, Long Wind wrote: > On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:20:20 PM GMT+8, deloptes > wrote: > > The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you > do not > > know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and > many > > many others) it is the

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 16:19, deloptes wrote: > Long Wind wrote: > >> term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as >> other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is >> criminal group, as described in bill by US senator > > The difference as said is, that

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:20:20 PM GMT+8, deloptes wrote: The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and many many others) it is the same as China. China is bad, but the illusion of democr

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as > other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is > criminal group, as described in bill by US senator The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not kn

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 11:20, Long Wind wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is > impossible to > > stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the > fact > > they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. > > I

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
 deloptes wrote: Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is impossible to stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the fact they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. I wanted to avoid being criticized for praising China. can yo

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Joe
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:33:50 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > > > > I was in China at the time, and it was far from > > `totalitarian/militant'. The people just played it smart, as they > > also did in New Zealand, which was also not > > `totalitarian/militant'. > > Well, they are b

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >>> apologise for that. >>> >>> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >>> others to be able to send you enc

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >> apologise for that. >> >> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >> others to be able to send you encrypted messages. >> >> O

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I > apologise for that. > > I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for > others to be able to send you encrypted messages. > > Of course the *primary* private key should be p

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:11:07, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > > democratic country. > > > > And you disappoint me here too - you believe i

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:03:58, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Good luck in doing public key cryptography without publishing the public > > key :) > > Andrei - you disappoint me here! In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I apologise for that. I'm sur

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 17:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >>> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >>> users in democratic country. >> >> Reminds me of the sayin

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >> users in democratic country. > > Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was > t

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: > Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was > that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda. Exactly - this part is absolutely the same. The difference is in the methods. There it was wellknown, here - not until internet came out ... or

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > democratic country. Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda.

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > democratic country. > And you disappoint me here too - you believe in illusion of democracy, which is not so obvious as i.e. in

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Good luck in doing public key cryptography without publishing the public > key :) Andrei - you disappoint me here!

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 mar 21, 00:54:08, deloptes wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I hear there's a lot of interesting discussions there about how to > > communicate safely, but sadly so far I haven't managed to configure my > > safe not-internet-connected machine to participate. > > do you think it is po

[OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-18 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: > I hear there's a lot of interesting discussions there about how to > communicate safely, but sadly so far I haven't managed to configure my > safe not-internet-connected machine to participate. do you think it is possible to have public & encrypted discussion, when we do n