Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-10-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 27 aug 11, 19:39:33, Rob Owens wrote: I recall reading that ext4 is much quicker than ext3 on flash drives, so you may want to consider using that. Although I'm not sure what you have to do to get Lenny to support ext4. Done that: the minimum would be backported kernel + e2fsprogs.

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread green
Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-27 08:50 -0500: I don't imagine upgrading will make much difference - the controller distributes the writes evenly, for which reason I reserve 25% of space when installing (instead of the default 10%). NOTE: I could be wrong about that - I'm just guessing. Hmm,

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/08/11 00:03, green wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-27 08:50 -0500: I don't imagine upgrading will make much difference - the controller distributes the writes evenly, for which reason I reserve 25% of space when installing (instead of the default 10%). NOTE: I could be wrong about

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread green
Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-28 10:19 -0500: On 29/08/11 00:03, green wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-27 08:50 -0500: I don't imagine upgrading will make much difference - the controller distributes the writes evenly, for which reason I reserve 25% of space when installing

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread green
Brad Alexander wrote at 2011-08-26 16:49 -0500: card slot on his brand new win7 laptop...and grabbed her card and Windows partially formatted (corrupted) it. Since that 8GB card was broken, she upgraded to a 16GB card Can Windows really *break* a card (rather than just the filesystem on it)?

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/08/11 07:00, green wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-28 10:19 -0500: On 29/08/11 00:03, green wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote at 2011-08-27 08:50 -0500: I don't imagine upgrading will make much difference - the controller distributes the writes evenly, for which reason I reserve 25% of

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/08/11 08:49, green wrote: Brad Alexander wrote at 2011-08-26 16:49 -0500: card slot on his brand new win7 laptop...and grabbed her card and Windows partially formatted (corrupted) it. Since that 8GB card was broken, she upgraded to a 16GB card Can Windows really *break* a card

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-27 Thread Brian
On Sat 27 Aug 2011 at 11:19:20 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: Based on my experiences using ext3 as a file system for running Debian on USB sticks. Single partition (no swap), logging redirected to vt12. 2 identical sticks (major brand) - identical builds - noatime enabled on one, not on

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/08/11 22:37, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Aug 2011 at 11:19:20 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: snipped The one without noatime died earlier this year after approx 2 years of use - the other has been upgraded to Squeeze and still works fine. I have just put unstable with an ext4 filesystem on

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-27 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: […] Full backups:- dd if=/dev/deb_usb | gzip -1 -c ./deb_usb.img.gz Full restores:- zcat ./deb_usb.img.gz | dd of=/dev/deb_usb My e2dis suite, which I hopeful to release soon, will probably be a better fit for

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:25:31AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: How hard is the ext3 file system on present-day flash drives? I have some older Dell systems that run lenny and I put a flash drive on as the boot drive on one of those systems and it works great, but for how long? I've

A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-26 Thread Martin McCormick
How hard is the ext3 file system on present-day flash drives? I have some older Dell systems that run lenny and I put a flash drive on as the boot drive on one of those systems and it works great, but for how long? What got me to thinking was that I have a system using

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-26 Thread green
Martin McCormick wrote at 2011-08-26 11:25 -0500: How hard is the ext3 file system on present-day flash drives? Not much worse than without a journal I think, but What got me to thinking was that I have a system using conventional magnetic-based hard drives and ext3 file systems. The

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-26 Thread green
green wrote at 2011-08-26 15:06 -0500: Martin McCormick wrote at 2011-08-26 11:25 -0500: How hard is the ext3 file system on present-day flash drives? Not much worse than without a journal I think, but ...that is just the feeling I have gotten from trying in vain to answer that question

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-26 Thread Brad Alexander
All I can offer is some almost-on-target empirical evidence. My daughter has had an Acer Aspire One for 3 or 4 years. Her /home was an 8GB Sandisk SD card. It never had any problems...until her husband noticed he had an SD card slot on his brand new win7 laptop...and grabbed her card and Windows

Re: A Question about Journalling File Systems and Flash Drives

2011-08-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/08/11 02:25, Martin McCormick wrote: How hard is the ext3 file system on present-day flash drives? I have some older Dell systems that run lenny and I put a flash drive on as the boot drive on one of those systems and it works great, but for how long? What got me to