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Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
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I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
somewhat different output, but none gave output
On 20100412_152156, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
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I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
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Paul E Condon wrote:
My understanding is that S.M.A.R.T. doesn't generally work over USB.
So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
for a USB
Original Message
From: pecon...@mesanetworks.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: About USB hard drives and errors
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:47:40 -0600
On 20100411_115203, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:
The errors that I am
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:
The errors that I am experiencing are all similar. The first
indication of a problem is a message from the kernel (I think). An
example is:
kernel: [78454.939948] journal commit I/O error
[...]
When this happens, all the USB drives (3
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:48:51 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
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Your comment was/is helpful to me. Thanks. Please don't drop off this
thread because I'm sometimes too terse. Following some links from article
No offense taken - I just didn't want you to get your
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
On 20100411_005025, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/10/2010 11:41 PM:
So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
for a USB solution. What other options are there for external
On 20100411_115203, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:
The errors that I am experiencing are all similar. The first
indication of a problem is a message from the kernel (I think). An
example is:
kernel: [78454.939948] journal commit I/O error
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/11/2010 4:40 PM:
All of the computers are hand-me-downs. None have eSATA capability. So
far I have not convinced myself that spending money would help solve
the problem. Perhaps in a few years, computers with eSATA will start
showing up in dumpsters. Maybe I
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Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even remotely
On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even remotely
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 08:45:26 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
[...]
Every HD that is even remotely close to being usable will always have
zero bad blocks when seen from outside the HD. All HDs have error
recognition and error correction and automatic
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
Interesting. So what is /badblocks/ for,
I would say it is useful to make the drive access every single block;
afterwards you can check in the SMART log if that caused any remappings.
That's a good idea.
Another
On 10-04-10 03:20:44, Clive McBarton wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find
it hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even remotely
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Tony Nelson wrote:
If the data in a sector was not readable, the sector
will be listed as Pending. Pending sectors are much worse than
Reallocated sectors, as Pending sectors mean lost data (if the sector
was in actual use, which SMART does
will be listed as Pending. Pending sectors are much worse than
Reallocated sectors, as Pending sectors mean lost data (if the sector
Indeed. OTOH Pending sectors can be eliminated by turning them into
Reallocated sectors (just write to the corresponding sector), whereas
Reallocated sectors
On 20100410_092044, Clive McBarton wrote:
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Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains
On 20100410_162445, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 20100410_092044, Clive McBarton wrote:
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Paul E Condon wrote:
dumpe2fs -b device is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
...
I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
somewhat different output, but none gave output that claimed there
On 20100411_002510, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
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I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
somewhat different
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:41:57 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
...
So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?
On 20100411_005504, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:41:57 -0600
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
...
So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
for a USB solution. What
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/10/2010 11:41 PM:
So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?
You're got 3 USB hard drives already,
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:44:33 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are for sale
in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on several of them
and started experimenting. The results so far are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided to
On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:44:33 pm Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided
On 2010-04-08 20:27, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get
On 20100409_102442, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-08 20:27, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The
On 2010-04-09 11:04, Paul E Condon wrote:
[snip]
But ... Why does the output say that the disk was modified
during the run? There were no badblocks found. What needed
modification?
Good question.
Do you have similar magic for dumpe2fs?
Nope.
Of course your output presented here
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided to do scans for bad blocks. The drives
I'm using are all
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided to do scans for bad
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