Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-02 Thread Christian Pernegger
Even if there's a third, neutral, unmarked state - it's still a problem in my eyes when users switch from dselect to aptitude. It's not a problem if you tell aptitude what to do when you start using it. How would I do that? Even if I wanted to go through all packages and mark them, how

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-02 Thread Jules Dubois
On Monday 01 August 2005 06:19, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this: followed by a long list of packages, some of which

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-02 Thread Clive Menzies
On (02/08/05 09:49), Jules Dubois wrote: On Monday 01 August 2005 06:19, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this:

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-02 Thread Clive Menzies
On (02/08/05 09:49), Jules Dubois wrote: I suggest, rather than using 'h' for hold, using 'm' for mark as manually installed for packages the OP is certain he wants to keep. In this way, those packages and their dependencies are both protected and upgradable. I just found another

Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Adam Funk
Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this: $ aptitude -s upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this: $ aptitude -s upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/1/05, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this: $ aptitude -s upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/1/05, Bryan Donlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/05, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by this: $ aptitude -s upgrade Reading

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/08/05 13:56), Bryan Donlan wrote: On 8/1/05, Bryan Donlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/05, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (01/08/05 12:32), Adam Funk wrote: Inspired by the advice on this group and the -s option, I'm trying out aptitude. But I'm surprised by

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Christian Pernegger
Briefly, run aptitude in interactive mode - ie # aptitude If you press g (only once), the proposed actions will be displayed, you can then 'h' hold packages you don't want removed. Since this is basically the issue I brought up a day or so earlier... Why should users have to wade through a

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/1/05, Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly, run aptitude in interactive mode - ie # aptitude If you press g (only once), the proposed actions will be displayed, you can then 'h' hold packages you don't want removed. Since this is basically the issue I brought up a day

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Christian Pernegger
Aptitude shouldn't remove packages you've told it to install - but it doesn't know whether packages installed through other means (apt-get, dselect, dpkg -i, etc) were manually or automatically installed. AFAIK I had only ever used aptitude on that system. Besides, why not play it safe and

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Christian Pernegger
That's the point. _It_ (aptitude hasn't been told to install them. This situation often arises when packages have been installed with apt-get, in which case it's not aptitude's fault that _it_ doesn't know that you want to install them. I'd assumed that there were just two package states

Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them.

2005-08-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On (01/08/05 19:17), Clive Menzies wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:17:30 +0100 Subject: Re: Aptitude erroneously thinks many packages are unused and wants to remove them. On (01/08/05 13:56), Bryan Donlan wrote: On