Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-11 Thread Ali Milis
Avi Greenbury wrote: Ali Milis wrote: Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. Or if the defaults are acceptable to you. ROFL, for years I tried to fantasize that Ubuntu is defaults are acceptable. Personally, I find that Debian on laptops requires more time to set up than Ubuntu does

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Ali Milis
I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. I am on the way back to Debian too. Unfortunately, stable means also ancient :( -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Avi Greenbury
Ali Milis wrote: I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. Or if the defaults are acceptable to you. Unless it's something other than configuration that you're getting at? Personally, I find that Debian on laptops requires more time to set up than Ubuntu

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Vasco Costa
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 20:43 +0700, Ali Milis wrote: I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. I am on the way back to Debian too. Unfortunately, stable means also ancient :( -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 -

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,08.Jan.10, 00:02:50, Vasco Costa wrote: Lenny supports all my hardware except my Atheros wireless card (ath9k). Backports came to rescue with linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686. You might want to try wicd as well. I just installed lenny/stable on a friends network and network-manager

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Vasco Costa
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 00:55 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,08.Jan.10, 00:02:50, Vasco Costa wrote: Lenny supports all my hardware except my Atheros wireless card (ath9k). Backports came to rescue with linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686. You might want to try wicd as well. I just

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 9 2010, Andrei Popescu wrote: You might want to try wicd as well. I just installed lenny/stable on a friends network and network-manager (a.k.a. nework mangler) simply wouldn't connect to my AP. wicd worked right away. I second that.. I had problems with my laptop wireless,

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread didier gaumet
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:28:08 +, Vasco Costa vasco.co...@geekslot.com wrote : [...] By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how does Debian testing/unstable behave in this regard for an experienced power user? I know all the nuts and bolts of Archlinux, including

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Vasco Costa
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 09:33 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:28:08 +, Vasco Costa vasco.co...@geekslot.com wrote : [...] By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how does Debian testing/unstable behave in this regard for an experienced

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread bosco
You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good group at the Sidux forum. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good group at the Sidux forum. but no email list.. I installed sidux on my laptop, getting rid of Ubuntu.. still have lenny on my

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread bosco
On 2010-01-07 14:40:02 -0700, Paul Cartwright a...@pcartwright.com said: On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good group at the Sidux forum. but no email list.. I

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Vasco Costa
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:29 -0700, bosco wrote: On 2010-01-07 14:40:02 -0700, Paul Cartwright a...@pcartwright.com said: On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Miles Bader
Brent Clark brentgclarkl...@gmail.com writes: I think if you run Testing, its no different if you run / use FreeBSD ports. You just need to know, and guess if its safe to do a dist-upgrade or upgrade only certain packages, but 99% of the time, I just dist-upgrade, and as said .. no problems

Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Vasco Costa
Alright, I'm back to Debian after having used it extensively in the late 90's and early 2000's. By that time I was a regular RPM hell sufferer, thus APT was the main feature which made me switch to Debian. Initially I was comfortable sticking with stable releases, however the will to stay

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Vasco Costa
I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to Gentoo and then Archlinux. Now that I also value a stable desktop I'm sticking with Lenny on my laptop. By the

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Brent Clark
On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to Gentoo and then Archlinux. Now that I also value a stable desktop I'm

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Jochen Schulz
Vasco Costa: I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) I never switched during the whole time I have used Linux and never regretted when I touched another distribution. :) By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how does Debian testing/unstable behave in this

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Moore
On Wednesday January 6 2010 1:52:11 pm Brent Clark wrote: On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to Gentoo

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Mark
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Moore anonymous.jon...@gmail.comwrote: On Wednesday January 6 2010 1:52:11 pm Brent Clark wrote: On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using