Papyrus?
Clay Tablets?
Personally, I'm a big fan of truly old school, tried-and-true methods -
delay line, otherwise known as word of mouth. Just keep copies of those
files bouncing around the net forever.
Miles Fidelman
--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In p
On Sun 30 Mar 2014 at 11:39:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:59:55 +0200
> Wilko Fokken wrote:
>
> > As a Frisian, living at the North Sea: on clay, surrounded by reeds,
>
> Wilko, this is so creative, so cute, so humorous, so on-topic, and so
> necessary, especially the par
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:59:55 +0200
Wilko Fokken wrote:
> As a Frisian, living at the North Sea: on clay, surrounded by reeds,
Wilko, this is so creative, so cute, so humorous, so on-topic, and so
necessary, especially the part about a death camp, that I'm overwhelmed
trying to think of a worthy
As a Frisian, living at the North Sea: on clay, surrounded by reeds,
I relished every single bit of spit between both long standing 'Multies'
[multinationals] of the Antique.
I am convinced, this poetic dispute will, in the long run, enliven
even the fiercest 'Fachidiot' clinging ever tighter to h
On 21/03/14 08:42, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 09:32:37 +, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-19, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>>>
>>> As I've come to realise, sound advice for anything imortant. Even
>>> then you can only work within the technology of the time.
>>>
>> I've
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 09:32:37 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-03-19, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> >
> > As I've come to realise, sound advice for anything imortant. Even then
> > you can only work within the technology of the time.
> >
> I've come to realise that giving advice (sound or otherwise)
On 2014-03-19, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>
> As I've come to realise, sound advice for anything imortant. Even then
> you can only work within the technology of the time.
>
I've come to realise that giving advice (sound or otherwise) is a safe
activity, seeing that hardly anyone ever takes it (w
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 11:13:15 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> OK - it 'may' have been mostly humour for the sake of humour (I can't
> speak for PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGY, at least until the lawyers have finalised
> our takeover of their business).
You think we are going to be the pushover Tauris was re
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:49:13AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 16/03/14 05:54 PM, Mr Queue wrote:
> >Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
> >
> >https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
> >
> >^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
> >I could even us
On 19/03/14 08:03, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:09:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
>
>> Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening
>> discussion to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org?
>
> My Dear Reco and fellow subscribers to this esteemed List,
Especia
Hi.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:03:17 +
PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> I realise (and I'm sure Myceneaen Magic does too) that we have let our
> commercial interests override our responsibility to help and advise
> users of the Debian OS. The thread drifted after I posted a serious
> comment about
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 20:09:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
> Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to
> d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org?
My Dear Reco and fellow subscribers to this esteemed List,
My caravan departure has been delayed. There is a security issue
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 20:09 +0400, Reco wrote:
> Can you guys please take the reminder of this enlightening discussion to
> d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org?
Or better off-list ;), instead of using D-community-offtopic? Some of us
are still learning, but we already distinguish, we send
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:08:05 +
PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 01:16:58 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>
> > That's just the sort of blaggards I'd expect a fly-by night purveyor of
> > fickle products to associate with.
>
> This "fly-by night" would really like to do that
On Wed 19 Mar 2014 at 01:16:58 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> That's just the sort of blaggards I'd expect a fly-by night purveyor of
> fickle products to associate with.
This "fly-by night" would really like to do that now but in response to
an urgent message from our representative in Edo I ha
On 19/03/14 00:46, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:50:18 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>
>> On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>>> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>>>
On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:54:48 -0500
Mr Queue wrote:
> Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
>
> ^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
> I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 21:50:18 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> > On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> >
> >> On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> >>> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
On 18/03/14 20:54, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>
>> On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>>> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>>>
On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Mon 1
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34:29 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> > On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> >
> >> On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> >>> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> >
On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
>
>> On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>>> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
>>>
The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
>>>
>>> Well observ
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> > On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> >
> >> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> >
> > Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs
On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
>
>> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
>
> Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
> anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our
comprehension.
We are an very old, established compa
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 19:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 18:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > > CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> > > are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW. C
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 18:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> > are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW. CDs will last a long time,
> > as they have a layer of physicall
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW. CDs will last a long time,
> as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
> plastic. But you can't press
On 03/17/2014 05:06 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
...
> So far, I haven't had readability problems on old CDs and DVDs.
> Blu-Rays seem a little squirrelly over time, but CDs and DVDs seem
> readable for many years.
...
> 3) Magnetic disks can be (accidentally) erased. Not so with wr
On 16/03/14 05:54 PM, Mr Queue wrote:
Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing
currently.
FWIW, I
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:57:07 +0100
an...@cyberh0me.net wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> >> > I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> >> > locations
> >>
> >> That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
> >
> > Because?
> >
On 17/03/14 08:54, Mr Queue wrote:
> Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
>
> ^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
> I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing
> currently.
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 11:25 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> So I have 2 USB connected disks of which 1 is allways offsite.
+1
While I have to admit that at the moment I only use one USB HDD and it's
disconnected, but in the same room as the PC, not really smart, I could
do better ;).
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Hello Andre,
>>> > I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
>>> > locations
>>>
>>> That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
>>
>> Because?
>>
>
> for example lifetime of the media itself, problems to read on different kind
> of dvd drives and some ot
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> locations
That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
Because?
for example lifetime of the media itself, problems to read on different
kind of dvd drives and
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 04:54:48PM -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
Not personally,
> FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my current backups of family
> photos to different media for peace of mind. I already have a pair
> of backup servers in
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:54:48 -0500
Mr Queue wrote:
> Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
I back up to Blu-Ray, among other things.
Often (I try to do it daily) I back up to a backup server via rsync.
Then, every few weeks, I make
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 23:02:59 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> > I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> > locations
>
> That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
Because?
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> locations
That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
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Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing
currently.
FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my curr
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