Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
Andy Smith composed on 2021-11-29 05:02 (UTC): > What is Trinity and is it actually packaged in Debian? If not, I > think you should be seeking help with the Trinity upstream. It's packaged /for/ Debian

Re: Fw: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 09:03:21PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I have installed bullseye now, but still can't install anything fom > trinity despite installing the keyrnig and the updatig it wth synaptic. > What the hell is going on? We don't know because despite being repeatedly

Fw: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Charles Curley
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:52:40 -0800 From: Gene Heskett To: charlescur...@charlescurley.com Subject: Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1 I have installed bullseye now, but still can't install anything fom trinity despite installing the keyrnig

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 09:10:54 -0800 Gene Heskett wrote: > Where do I start on a new buster net install? The backups are all > from stretch. All I want is the data. So how do make /bin/tar > usable/secure? You should have no issue recovering Buster era amanda backups on a Bullseye installation. I

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Lee
On 11/28/21, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Please help everyone else on the list understand how well/badly this goes. > Precise error messages or sequences of commands you've run are really > helpful I've always liked script for capturing what happens on the command line but the captured control

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 09:10:54AM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its > own lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups > I cannot access. > > > > apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity,

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Lee
On 11/28/21, Gene Heskett wrote: > Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its own > lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups I > cannot access. > > apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity, claims I have held > broken packages it

new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Gene Heskett
Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its own lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups I cannot access. apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity, claims I have held broken packages it refuses to name. and synaptics

Re: Buster install using debootstrap. (SOLVED)

2020-06-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 6/5/20 6:31 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 6/4/20 11:30 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root. What am I missing? /tmp (and /var/tmp/) should have

Re: Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 6/4/20 11:30 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root. What am I missing? /tmp (and /var/tmp/) should have the following permissions and rights:

Re: Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 08:30:16AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary > > files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root.  > > What am I missing? > > /tmp (and /var/tmp/) should have

Re: Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 08:30:16AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Marc Shapiro wrote: >>> I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary >>> files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root.  >>> What am I missing? >> >> /tmp

Re: Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 08:30:16AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary > > files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root.  > > What am I missing? > > /tmp (and /var/tmp/) should have

Re: Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Marc Shapiro wrote: > I also don't understand why it says that it could not create temporary > files in /tmp.  I am running this as root and /tmp is owned by root.  > What am I missing? /tmp (and /var/tmp/) should have the following permissions and rights: root:root 1777/drwxrwxrwt apt

Buster install using debootstrap.

2020-06-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
I have just installed Buster on a spare set of partitions using debootstrap, as documented in:     Appendix D.3 of the Installation Guide. When I got to configuring networking, I just copied /etc/networking/interfaces, /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname, and /etc/resolv.conf from my Stretch

Re: Buster install with UEFI boot not working

2020-06-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Kashif, Kashif wrote: > >I am trying to install a buster through PXE netbooting using UEFI boot. >The currents setup works for BIOS correctly. > >I changed dhcpd config file using 'option arch' to point to correct >filename and that bit is working as when booting with PXE, the server >manages

Buster install with UEFI boot not working

2020-06-03 Thread mohammad kashif
Hi I am trying to install a buster through PXE netbooting using UEFI boot. The currents setup works for BIOS correctly. I changed dhcpd config file using 'option arch' to point to correct filename and that bit is working as when booting with PXE, the server manages to download grubx64.efi. The

Re: New Buster install crashing

2019-11-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-10-31, J.W. Foster wrote: > > So this is the issue. This is a newly built system hardware that is > all cutting edge and I have other Linux OS as well as windows > installed and all wo rk well. I have had a consistent issue with > Buster crashing the system. I can only tell that it is

Re: New Buster install crashing

2019-10-31 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:45:59 + (UTC) "J.W. Foster" wrote: > So this is the issue. This is a newly built system hardware that > is all cutting edge and I have other Linux OS as well as windows > installed and all work well. I have had a consistent issue with Buster > crashing the system. I

Re: New Buster install crashing

2019-10-31 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:45:59 + (UTC) "J.W. Foster" wrote: > The thing I am seeking is where to look for logs that indicate > specifically what is occurring. Try /var/log/syslog. Although if the system crashes, it may not write the last few lines to the file, and those are likely to be what

Re: New Buster install crashing

2019-10-31 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi John, Quoting J.W. Foster (2019-10-31 16:45:59) > So this is the issue. This is a newly built system hardware that is > all cutting edge and I have other Linux OS as well as windows > installed and all work well. I have had a consistent issue with Buster > crashing the system. I can only

Re: Buster install

2019-07-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:08:55AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Let me suggest an alternative workflow: > > * Do everything from a user account, except for the (very few) actions > that actually require elevated privileges. Yes, of course, obviously. This is exactly what I do, and what

Re: Buster install

2019-07-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 15 iul 19, 10:20:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The implementation of su in stretch-and-earlier is the best of all worlds. > You get PATH set correctly before and after, you get to keep all of your > customized environment settings like $PAGER and $LESS, and it doesn't > change your working

Re: Buster install

2019-07-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 09:29:55AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > What's the point of preserving the environment, but resetting PATH? It assumes you trust yourself, and that you did not intentionally sabotage your own environment. The changes that you, the owner and administrator of your

Re: Buster install

2019-07-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:42:52AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 09:11:17AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 14 iul 19, 00:09:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Use "su -" (or "sudo -s") if you want to achieve that... > > > > You probably meant 'sudo -i' ;) > >

Re: Buster install

2019-07-14 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:30 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > As I see it the new su (behaviour) clearly distinguishes between > "preserve environment" and "don't preserve environment". > > What's the point of preserving the environment, but resetting PATH? > It comes in handy debugging scripts. Some

Re: Buster install

2019-07-14 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 09:11:17AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 14 iul 19, 00:09:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Use "su -" (or "sudo -s") if you want to achieve that... > > You probably meant 'sudo -i' ;) Yep, better. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Buster install

2019-07-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 13 iul 19, 18:15:25, Curt Howland wrote: > On Saturday 13 July 2019, Ansgar Burchardt was heard to say: > > |   The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing > |   plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' > is > |   strongly recommended to

Re: Buster install

2019-07-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 14 iul 19, 00:09:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 05:23:22PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > > > > Ok, the problem is /etc/profile is not being run when the "su" command > > is used. If I log in as root, the path is set just fine. > > Use "su -" (or "sudo -s") if you

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Saturday 13 July 2019, Ansgar Burchardt was heard to say: |   The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing |   plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is |   strongly recommended to always get a

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 05:23:22PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Saturday 13 July 2019, Curt Howland was heard to say: > > Just installed Buster. > > > > I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in > > root's path by

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Saturday 13 July 2019, Curt Howland was heard to say: > Just installed Buster. > > I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in > root's path by default? Ok, the problem is /etc/profile is not being run when the "su" command

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Curt Howland writes: > I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in root's > path by default? /sbin is in root's path by default. However Debian now uses a different implementation of `su` which no longer changes PATH by default: +--- | - new 'su' (with no args, i.e. when

Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Just installed Buster. I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in root's path by default? - -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-03, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I was going to document here the work-a-round I successfully used > yesterday to install desired additional packages. There's a bug report concerning this from 2014. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=745381 In that thread our very own

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > At this point, the same cognoscenti who bemoan Linux lacking market > penetration tell him to go read some techie manuals and perform arcane > incantations. As true ostriches they insist the problem is "operator > error". This is a good way to not get any help. -- John

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 8:26 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > At this point, the same cognoscenti who bemoan Linux lacking market > penetration tell him to go read some techie manuals and perform arcane > incantations. As true ostriches they insist the problem is "operator > error". > This is a

Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett
Rather than quote my original post, I'll restate the underlying problem. In the beginning, Joe Average would obtain Debian on a set of physical installation CDs. He boots from it. The installer does it's thing. Later, desiring additional software, he inserts the same CD and allows Synaptic to

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-02 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 05:33:05AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I was wondering about that. I've never had a clear understanding of > when to use 1 slash and when to use 3. I assumed that in this case 1 > was acceptable because how Synaptic's error message was phrased when > attempting

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/01/2019 06:11 PM, Jason wrote: On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 07:23:49AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/31/2019 08:55 AM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: The installation, having put the DVD1 ISO on a flash drive, encountered no problems *HOWEVER* I need several packages [gparted, tcl, tk]

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-01 Thread Jason
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 07:23:49AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/31/2019 08:55 AM, bw wrote: > >In-Reply-To: > > > > > >>The installation, having put the DVD1 ISO on a flash drive, encountered > >>no problems > >> > >> > >>*HOWEVER* I need several packages [gparted, tcl, tk] which are in

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/01/2019 02:51 AM, didier gaumet wrote: Le 31/03/2019 à 15:28, Richard Owlett a écrit : [...] I added the line deb "file:/media/richard/Debian testing amd64 1/debian" buster contrib main to the beginning of sources.list . [...] This is unacceptable when installation via an iso image

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/31/2019 08:55 AM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: The installation, having put the DVD1 ISO on a flash drive, encountered no problems *HOWEVER* I need several packages [gparted, tcl, tk] which are in the DVD image. Synaptic is unable to install them: 1. sources.list refers to a

Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-04-01 Thread didier gaumet
Le 31/03/2019 à 15:28, Richard Owlett a écrit : [...] > I added the line >> deb "file:/media/richard/Debian testing amd64 1/debian" buster contrib >> main > > to the beginning of sources.list . [...] > This is unacceptable when installation via an iso image on a flash drive > is becoming more and

BUSTER install - CATCH-22

2019-03-31 Thread Richard Owlett
I wish to install Buster on a machine with essentially *NO* internet connectivity. I downloaded the DVD1 ISO on my primary machine [creates secondary problem of being up against data cap]. The installation, having put the DVD1 ISO on a flash drive, encountered no problems *HOWEVER* I need