On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:36:35 +0100
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Display managers, and particularly window managers and desktop
environments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment are
often confounded. A window manager is a component of a desktop
environment. Decent
Le 22/11/2012 18:00, Richard Owlett a écrit :
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the machine.
It has no
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 01:17 +0100, mouss wrote:
When I boot I want to do *ANYTHING*!
Install DOS?
What is a good DOS nowadays? IIRC on my Atari ST 80286 hardware emulator
I used DR DOS.
I googled for open dos and free dos and indeed, both searches were
successful but I didn't read about it.
Le 25.11.2012 00:14, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Jo, 22 nov 12, 22:30:54, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
And, seriously, windows users do that by default and their computers
works not so bad.
That's a joke, right?
Kind regards,
Andrei
Yes and no :)
This could become a troll
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:40 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 25.11.2012 00:14, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Jo, 22 nov 12, 22:30:54, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
And, seriously, windows users do that by default and their computers
works not so bad.
That's a
On Vi, 23 nov 12, 17:04:27, Nate Bargmann wrote:
On Ubuntu distros set up like that, 'sudo su' has worked on the rare
occasion a root shell prompt was needed.
Why bother with su? sudo can start a shell as well and you don't even
need to type its name (hint: -i or -s).
Kind regards,
Andrei
On Sb, 24 nov 12, 02:50:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
PS: It's completely useless to run a web browser with root privileges.
Especially on a computer without *any* network access :D
SCNR
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Jo, 22 nov 12, 22:30:54, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
And, seriously, windows users do that by default and their computers
works not so bad.
That's a joke, right?
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 01:11 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 24 nov 12, 02:50:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
PS: It's completely useless to run a web browser with root privileges.
Especially on a computer without *any* network access :D
Oops, a bad example :D.
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On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 01:14 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 22 nov 12, 22:30:54, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
And, seriously, windows users do that by default and their computers
works not so bad.
That's a joke, right?
FWIW for old computers it did work that way and I
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:20:03 +0100
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
Decency seems to be a dying breed, sadly ;-)
lunacy is very much alive however.
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Le 23.11.2012 02:06, Richard Owlett a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Remove gdm, and put in the file /root/.bash_profile
following lines:
===
if [ -z $DISPLAY ] [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ];then
startx
fi
===
To have a auto-login, you can also modify /etc/inittab
Display managers, and particularly window managers and desktop
environments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment are
often confounded. A window manager is a component of a desktop
environment. Decent desktop environments allow you to use the window
manager of your choice.
True, but
On Friday 23,November,2012 01:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the machine.
lina wrote:
On Friday 23,November,2012 01:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 23.11.2012 02:06, Richard Owlett a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Remove gdm, and put in the file /root/.bash_profile
following lines:
===
if [ -z $DISPLAY ] [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ];then
startx
fi
===
To have a
On 23 Nov, 2012, at 20:13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
lina wrote:
On Friday 23,November,2012 01:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has
On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 12:10 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
A little CLI typing will fix right up that lack of a GUI root login.
Sometimes it's necessary. A suggestion, though: when you do manage to get
root in a GUI, make the background a bright, solid red to remind yourself of
where you are.
MPR wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Darac Marjal wrote:
Log in as root?
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Edit /etc/passwd and change the UID and GID for your login to
Miles Fidelman wrote:
MPR wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett
rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Darac Marjal wrote:
Log in as root?
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome
login screen :
Edit /etc/passwd and change the UID and
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
That did not work.
That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set up a root
account, before setting up an account
Le 22.11.2012 18:00, Richard Owlett a écrit :
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the machine.
It has no
Decent desktop environments allow you to use the window manager of
your choice.
Decency seems to be a dying breed, sadly ;-)
Stefan
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Le 23.11.2012 22:19, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
That did not work.
That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 14:43 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
MPR wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
wrote:
Darac Marjal wrote:
Log in as root?
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 17:13 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Decent desktop environments allow you to use the window manager of
your choice.
Decency seems to be a dying breed, sadly ;-)
It started a long time ago with some insane hard dependencies and for
many distros it has become much more
* On 2012 23 Nov 16:18 -0600, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 23.11.2012 22:19, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
Nate writes:
Some things seem to fail with 'sudo'.
Sudo applies only to the single command that follows it. Thus if you
type 'sudo' followed by a pipeline, for example, you may not get the
result you expect.
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Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
That did not work.
That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set up a
root account, before
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 17:04 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2012 23 Nov 16:18 -0600, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 23.11.2012 22:19, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 17:23 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Nate writes:
Some things seem to fail with 'sudo'.
Sudo applies only to the single command that follows it. Thus if you
type 'sudo' followed by a pipeline, for example, you may not get the
result you expect.
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
That did not work.
That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set up
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
spinymouse@q:~$ sudo -i
[sudo] password for spinymouse:
root@q:~#
ahh... that's a good one, I've always used:
sudo su
which does the same thing
Miles
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Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
you might try using expert mode when installing, and then
answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root
login,
That did not work.
That's rather odd. The installer
Richard Owlett wrote:
As in, you were not able to log in as root, even though
you'd enabled root and provided a root password during
installation? That's also kind of weird. What about logging
in as a normal user, and then opening a terminal window and
typing su ?
That was *NOT* my goal .
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:28 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
As in, you were not able to log in as root, even though
you'd enabled root and provided a root password during
installation? That's also kind of weird. What about logging
in as a normal user, and then
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 02:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:28 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
As in, you were not able to log in as root, even though
you'd enabled root and provided a root password during
installation? That's also kind of
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 02:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 02:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:28 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
As in, you were not able to log in as root, even though
you'd enabled root and provided a
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
It's wise not to run a complete session as root. It's better to e.g. use
a su frontend, e.g.
kind of depends on what you're doing - if you're doing software installs
and admin on a server (most of what I do), one spends a lot of time in
root sessions
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In theory,
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in
a manner that a even I would never do on a machine with real
data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the machine.
It has no possibility of connecting to the internet.
It will
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical access to the machine.
Darac Marjal wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with real data on it.
It has intrinsically the best security in place
Only _*I*_ have physical
Start without X. Log in as root. Start X
On Nov 22, 2012 11:20 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I've a laptop whose *SOLE* purpose in life is to be used in a manner
that a even I would never do on a machine with
Richard Owlett wrote at 2012-11-22 11:00 -0600:
The installation CD lives in the drive, for various reasons the
hard drive is wiped and reinstall done 2-3 times per week.
When I boot I want to do *ANYTHING*!
HOW?
Use grml instead?
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On 22/11/12 18:06, Richard Owlett wrote:
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Presuming you're using GDM, maybe this will help you out?
http://projects.gnome.org/gdm/docs/2.14/configuration.html#securitysection
You could
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Grace
lists...@deathbycomputers.co.uk wrote:
On 22/11/12 18:06, Richard Owlett wrote:
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Presuming you're using GDM, maybe this will help you out?
A little CLI typing will fix right up that lack of a GUI root login. Sometimes
it's necessary. A suggestion, though: when you do manage to get root in a GUI,
make the background a bright, solid red to remind yourself of where you are.
But I'm hoping Debian's paranoia will never go away. I use
Remove gdm, and put in the file /root/.bash_profile following lines:
===
if [ -z $DISPLAY ] [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ];then
startx
fi
===
To have a auto-login, you can also modify /etc/inittab and replace a
/sbin/getty by /bin/sh.
The better with those solutions is the
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:30:54PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Remove gdm, and put in the file /root/.bash_profile following lines:
===
if [ -z $DISPLAY ] [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ];then
startx
fi
===
To have a auto-login, you can also modify /etc/inittab
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Darac Marjal wrote:
Log in as root?
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Edit /etc/passwd and change the UID and GID for your login to 0 (which
MPR wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Darac Marjal wrote:
Log in as root?
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Edit /etc/passwd and change the UID and GID for your login to 0
Tom Grace wrote:
On 22/11/12 18:06, Richard Owlett wrote:
Effectively that's what I want.
BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen :
Presuming you're using GDM, maybe this will help you out?
green wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote at 2012-11-22 11:00 -0600:
The installation CD lives in the drive, for various reasons the
hard drive is wiped and reinstall done 2-3 times per week.
When I boot I want to do *ANYTHING*!
HOW?
Use grml instead?
Not looking for a live system. I'm only
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Remove gdm, and put in the file /root/.bash_profile
following lines:
===
if [ -z $DISPLAY ] [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ];then
startx
fi
===
To have a auto-login, you can also modify /etc/inittab and
replace a /sbin/getty by /bin/sh.
The
Richard Owlett writes:
I suspect I'm looking more for a display manager than a desktop
environment.
You don't mean a display manager: that's GDM, XDM, etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_manager. You mean a window
manager such as FVWM, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager.
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