Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-29 Thread Johan Kullstam
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:10:13AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes?

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Stephen
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:39:11AM -0500 or thereabouts, Owen Heisler wrote: Stephen wrote: snippage Sorry I haven't been following this thread, but thought I'd comment on the line above : I run aptitude from the command line ; 'aptitude dist-upgrade' works fine for me. It seems many

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Owen Heisler
Florian Kulzer wrote: Owen Heisler wrote: George Borisov wrote: [...] I think it already is like the dist-upgrade option? After all, it does install new and remove unwanted dependencies. According to 'man aptitude': upgrade - Upgrades installed packages to their most recent

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 08:26 -0400, Stephen wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:39:11AM -0500 or thereabouts, Owen Heisler wrote: Stephen wrote: snippage Sorry I haven't been following this thread, but thought I'd comment on the line above : I run aptitude from the command line ;

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-26 Thread Stephen
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:17:16AM -0500 or thereabouts, Owen Heisler wrote: So 'aptitude upgrade' is like 'apt-get upgrade'. But there is no 'dist-upgrade' option for aptitude. I don't get it... How can I see, in aptitude (interactive), a full dist-upgrade? Sorry I haven't been following

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-26 Thread Owen Heisler
Stephen wrote: Owen Heisler wrote: So 'aptitude upgrade' is like 'apt-get upgrade'. But there is no 'dist-upgrade' option for aptitude. I don't get it... How can I see, in aptitude (interactive), a full dist-upgrade? Sorry I haven't been following this thread, but thought I'd comment

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:17:16 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: George Borisov wrote: [...] I think it already is like the dist-upgrade option? After all, it does install new and remove unwanted dependencies. According to 'man aptitude': upgrade - Upgrades installed packages to their most

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-25 Thread Owen Heisler
George Borisov wrote: Owen Heisler wrote: I have Debian running on another drive now, and have another question. When I update the system using aptitude, the mark upgradeable packages (or similar) option in the menu will mark all the packages to update. Then I can see what it is

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-24 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 10:45 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:10:13AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: I have been following this thread as I am working on switching to Debian, and have just these questions: If I install Debian stable and have stable in the

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-24 Thread George Borisov
Owen Heisler wrote: I have Debian running on another drive now, and have another question. When I update the system using aptitude, the mark upgradeable packages (or similar) option in the menu will mark all the packages to update. Then I can see what it is planning on doing. This is a

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-21 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 22:44 +0300, Black Dew wrote: If I install Debian stable and have stable in the sources.list file, will updates keep happening, even across releases? I think it would be great it I never had to reinstall, yet could still have a completely up-to-date system.

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-21 Thread hendrik
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 02:58:30PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: I will probably follow stable unless the packages are all too old, then will jump to testing. This brings up something else: if I have testing in my sources.list file and replace it with stable (if I want to go back to stable),

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 02:58:30PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 22:44 +0300, Black Dew wrote: If I install Debian stable and have stable in the sources.list file, will updates keep happening, even across releases? I think it would be great it I never had to

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-20 Thread Owen Heisler
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes? lrwxrwxrwx1 200 200 4 Jun 06 2005 testing - etch The stable/testing/unstable names are

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-20 Thread hendrik
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:10:13AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes? lrwxrwxrwx1 200 200 4

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:10:13AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes? lrwxrwxrwx1 200 200 4

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:10:13AM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 23:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes? lrwxrwxrwx1 200 200 4

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-20 Thread Black Dew
If I install Debian stable and have stable in the sources.list file, will updates keep happening, even across releases? I think it would be great it I never had to reinstall, yet could still have a completely up-to-date system. stable is just a pointer to the latest release. So if you put now

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Adam Hardy
Chris Howie on 16/05/06 20:16, wrote: That is correct. However when sarge was released, I was tracking testing, meaning that I jumped right into etch. I recall this having very ill effects that lasted until I reinstalled etch. Now I am tracking etch, and plan on doing so until several days

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:46:59AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Chris Howie on 16/05/06 20:16, wrote: That is correct. However when sarge was released, I was tracking testing, meaning that I jumped right into etch. I recall this having very ill effects that lasted until I reinstalled etch.

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Adam Hardy
Andrew Sackville-West on 18/05/06 15:17, wrote: My sources.list points at etch (testing, right?) like so: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ testing main deb-src http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ testing main deb

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Brotherton
IMHO, its better to pre-empt that by pointing to etch instead of testing. then when etch ebcomes stable, you'll stabilise and can decide on your own when to brave the churning in testing. And I suspect that's a lot easier than trying to go through a downgrade process. You mean 'testing'

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Adam Hardy
Chris Brotherton on 18/05/06 16:38, wrote: IMHO, its better to pre-empt that by pointing to etch instead of testing. then when etch ebcomes stable, you'll stabilise and can decide on your own when to brave the churning in testing. And I suspect that's a lot easier than trying to go through a

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:17:38PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Chris Brotherton on 18/05/06 16:38, wrote: IMHO, its better to pre-empt that by pointing to etch instead of testing. then when etch ebcomes stable, you'll stabilise and can decide on your own when to brave the churning in testing. And

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:17:38PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Chris Brotherton on 18/05/06 16:38, wrote: IMHO, its better to pre-empt that by pointing to etch instead of testing. then when etch ebcomes stable, you'll stabilise and can decide on your own when to brave the churning in testing. And

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Adam Hardy wrote: You mean 'testing' and 'etch' are interchangeable as far as the sources.list entry goes? lrwxrwxrwx1 200 200 4 Jun 06 2005 testing - etch The stable/testing/unstable names are just symlinks to the actual codenames. So for now, testing and etch are

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-16 Thread Chris Howie
Paul E Condon wrote: I would highly recommend leaving your sources.list pointing at etch until after the freeze is over, then point at testing. Upgrading across releases (for that is what will happen if you track testing) can cause some bizarre problems now and then. I think the reasoning

Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-15 Thread Joseph Smidt
I want to run testing for I like keeping farely leading edge software on my computer. When they freeze etch can I just change my repo's from etch to testing and keep getting new software, or do I have to wait for the etch freeze to be over before testing goes back to being what testing currently

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Joseph Smidt wrote: I want to run testing for I like keeping farely leading edge software on my computer. When they freeze etch can I just change my repo's from etch to testing and keep getting new software, or do I have to wait for the etch freeze to be over before testing goes back to being

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-15 Thread Chris Howie
Joseph Smidt wrote: I want to run testing for I like keeping farely leading edge software on my computer. When they freeze etch can I just change my repo's from etch to testing and keep getting new software, or do I have to wait for the etch freeze to be over before testing goes back to being

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-15 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 01:01:36PM -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote: I want to run testing for I like keeping farely leading edge software on my computer. When they freeze etch can I just change my repo's from etch to testing and keep getting new software, or do I have to wait for the etch freeze to

Re: Can I stay in testing without going etch?

2006-05-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:49:07PM -0400, Chris Howie wrote: Joseph Smidt wrote: I want to run testing for I like keeping farely leading edge software on my computer. When they freeze etch can I just change my repo's from etch to testing and keep getting new software, or do I have to wait