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On 05/11/08 20:47, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
[snip]
>
> I do think that this whole "whatever is profitable is moral" mentality
"*Whatever*" is too strong a word, just as you called me out on the
use of the word "all".
> to be strongly USian, bu
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On 05/11/08 19:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old
>> virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a
>> banana-broccoli s
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On 05/11/08 19:43, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:27:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/11/08 06:57, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannis
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On 05/12/08 03:34, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
[snip]
>
> As for OpenVMS, it is still actively developed and supported by HP.
> We have several OpenVMS systems where I work. I still next to the guy
> that supports all of them. ;-)
We've got 7 of vario
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks,
>
> I had a look at the wikipedia article for OpenVMS. It seems that the
> Open is a misnomer.
>
> Is anybody working on an OpenOpenVMS?
There is a community effort to duplicate OpenVMS on x86 hardware
ca
On 11/05/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The drive for individual happiness instead of
> societal happiness is one of the key differences between Canadian
> culture, as a whole, and American culture, as a whole.
That bunch of commie, tree-hugging, bilingual, polycultural, li
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:31:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old
> virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a
> banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener".
Why does your crystal ball work as a mirror?
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:27:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/11/08 06:57, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> I'm sure
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On 05/11/08 08:29, Curt Howland wrote:
>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
>
> Taco Bell won the Franchise Wars.
I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a
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On 05/11/08 06:57, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
I'm sure there are those *cough*
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On 05/11/08 08:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:15:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/10/08 17:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
On Fri, May 09, 2008 a
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> > The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
Taco Bell won the Franchise Wars.
Which certainly clears out _my_ swap space, I'll tell you.
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:15:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/10/08 17:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> >>> And a workstation running OpenVMS
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> I'm sure there are those *cough*Paul Johnson*cough* who'd love to do
> >> just that, most of us know that profit makes the w
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On 05/10/08 17:40, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
>>> Real freedom = BSD.
>> The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
>
> How do you figure?
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On 05/10/08 17:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>
>>> And a workstation running OpenVMS was considered so unhackab
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On 05/10/08 19:35, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/11 Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I've never even seen OSX. I think I saw something recently that someone
>> said was a mac, looked like a gorilla's laptop minus the keyboard; I
>> guess that ha
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/5/11 Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I've never even seen OSX. I think I saw something recently that someone
> > said was a mac, looked like a gorilla's laptop minus the keyboard; I
> > guess that happened
2008/5/11 Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've never even seen OSX. I think I saw something recently that someone
> said was a mac, looked like a gorilla's laptop minus the keyboard; I
> guess that happened when NeXT bought the Apple brand and true Apple was
> an endagered fruit.
>
> If OS
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:42:11PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/09/08 07:33, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > I use Linux because it is the most
> > > stable and secure OS available in my opinion.
> > I'm sure the {Free|Open}BSD
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:02:24PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> I just looked at an OS-X machine for the first time. It costs about
> >> four times what a comparable machine that I build myself would cost.
> >
> > But it's more polished than GNOME or KD
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 11:06:39PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Jordi Guti??rrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
> >
> > Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give bac
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
> > Real freedom = BSD.
>
> The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
How do you figure?
Doug.
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On 10/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx
Alright, corollary to Godwin's law: invoking communists. The thread is
dead. Long live the thread!
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2008/5/10 Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Greed is ingrained into all humans. Getting rid of it is as
>> impossible as preventing the earth from spinning.
>
> Remove the profit, should work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx
Dotan Cohen
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On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
Real freedom = BSD.
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>> On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Real freedom = BSD.
>> The BSD License
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> On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Real freedom = BSD.
>
> The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
>
> > Freedom with an agenda = GPL.
>
> Everyone
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On 05/09/08 18:21, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
>
> Real freedom = BSD.
The BSD License allowed the Unix Wars to take place.
> Freedom with an agenda = GPL.
Everyone has an agenda. Always. You've just got to figure out what
the agenda is.
> Apple us
Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
Yes Apple does apparently give back some code... It looks khtml or
Webkit or whatever the marketable term nowadays is does indeed have
free Apple code in it, even if they gave it back in ways that were
difficult for free developers to adopt and took a long time to
2008/5/10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I really hope that this doesn't turn into a flame war. I respect your
>> ideals. Please respect mine.
>
> Uhm.
>
> And what exactly are those ideals of yours? I haven't seen you expre
On 09/05/2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do you *know* whether Apple doesn't pass anything back to Darwin?
>
> Well, they made a GPL exception *just for themselves only* with CUPS.
Allow me to qualify that a bit more.
Yes Apple does apparently give back some code...
On 09/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 05/09/08 14:51, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> > On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
> >
> > Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give back code.
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On 05/09/08 15:06, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
>> Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code wh
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On 05/09/08 14:51, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
>
> Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give back code. :-(
>
> Apple, I'm
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 01:38:33PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu May 8 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> What programs does she use in Windows? Have you not found Linux
> >> equivalents? Have you written to the vendors and asked about a Linux
> >>
2008/5/9 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would very happily pay for Linux had that been the situation.
>
> What does money have to do with freedom? I paid good money for the
> privilege to have Linux on my machine.
>
Nothi
2008/5/9 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
>
> Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give back code. :-(
>
That's why the GPL was written. The BSD (or was it MIT? I
On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lots of proprietary software is available for Linux.
Yeah, it's a tragedy. Takers of code who don't give back code. :-(
Apple, I'm looking at you.
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> I would very happily pay for Linux had that been the situation.
What does money have to do with freedom? I paid good money for the
privilege to have Linux on my machine.
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2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I just looked at an OS-X machine for the first time. It costs about
>> four times what a comparable machine that I build myself would cost.
>
> But it's more polished than GNOME or KDE, and probably better for
> "regular users"/
>
Maybe. I couldn't figu
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On 05/09/08 13:28, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> I'll stick with Debian. I don't need to get myself into anything even
>>> more obscure than I currently use. In Israel, almost noone had even
>>> heard of Linux. Exce
2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I'll stick with Debian. I don't need to get myself into anything even
>> more obscure than I currently use. In Israel, almost noone had even
>> heard of Linux. Except for the few lucky souls who drool over compiz
>> and then beg me to install Ubuntu for
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On 05/09/08 11:01, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> It should. If they hadn't added a Linux compatibility layer, they'd
>> have been even deader than Netcraft says they are...
>
> I'll stick with Debian. I don't need
2008/5/9 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Adobe, photoshop Elements... She really doesn't like Gimp. And my scanner (
> Epson Perfection 4180 ) never worked under Linux.
>
This is what I got back from Epson:
"""
Thank you for contacting the Epson Connection.
While Epson makes drivers for o
2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It should. If they hadn't added a Linux compatibility layer, they'd
> have been even deader than Netcraft says they are...
I'll stick with Debian. I don't need to get myself into anything even
more obscure than I currently use. In Israel, almost noone h
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On 05/09/08 09:41, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> I understand that many people use Linux because of the freedom it
>>> brings us. Personally, I don't. I use Linux because it is the most
>>> stable and secure OS avai
2008/5/9 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dotan Cohen writes:
>> I use Linux because it is the most stable and secure OS available in my
>> opinion. The fact freedom factor is just a bonus for me.
>
> Has it occurred to you that there might be a connection there?
I am more than certain that ther
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:43:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/09/08 07:33, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > I use Linux because it is the most
> > stable and secure OS available in my opinion.
> I'm sure the {Free|Open}BSD crowds would more than quibble with you.
also the NetBSD ones
> And a workst
2008/5/9 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I understand that many people use Linux because of the freedom it
>> brings us. Personally, I don't. I use Linux because it is the most
>> stable and secure OS available in my opinion. The fact freedom factor
>
> I'm sure the {Free|Open}BSD crowds would
Dotan Cohen writes:
> I use Linux because it is the most stable and secure OS available in my
> opinion. The fact freedom factor is just a bonus for me.
Has it occurred to you that there might be a connection there?
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On 05/09/08 07:33, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[snip]
> I understand that many people use Linux because of the freedom it
> brings us. Personally, I don't. I use Linux because it is the most
> stable and secure OS available in my opinion. The fact freedom facto
Am 2008-05-01 22:29:59, schrieb andy:
> Perhaps not. However, my uptime is only 7 days with one user. Yet it
> takes several seconds for my Xfce4 (light and fast) to respond. I am
> unable to load a larger amount of RAM, and my system is sluggish even
> with 1GB of RAM. What is a poor Deb Lenny
2008/5/9 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've written to Adobe in the past asking about Photoshop and Photoshop
>> Elements. I suggest that you write to them as well:
>> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wish
2008/5/9 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu May 8 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> What programs does she use in Windows? Have you not found Linux
>> equivalents? Have you written to the vendors and asked about a Linux
>> port? Tell me which programs they are and maybe I can suggest
>> someth
2008/5/9 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu May 8 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> What programs does she use in Windows? Have you not found Linux
>> equivalents? Have you written to the vendors and asked about a Linux
>> port? Tell me which programs they are and maybe I can suggest
>> someth
On Thu May 8 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> What programs does she use in Windows? Have you not found Linux
> equivalents? Have you written to the vendors and asked about a Linux
> port? Tell me which programs they are and maybe I can suggest
> something.
Adobe, photoshop Elements... She really doesn'
2008/5/4 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world who can
>> overcome their "fear" of the SBSOD. Right???
>
> my wife doesn't like typing, she likes clicking mice. She also likes to
> garden, and she does
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:27:05AM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:06:22PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > > alias startx='startx -- :0 vt07'
> > > alias startx='startx -- :1 vt08'
> > > alias startx='startx --
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 10:58:17AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I do note that your xfce4-terminal has a 15m Res. Seems excessive just
> for a terminal.
Not if it has a large scroll buffer.
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> On Fri May 2 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> If they float and are not ducks ... nor made of wood, then they must be
>>> ... ?
>> Positively buoyant non-wooden non-ducks. Or witches.
>
> hey, wait, **I** can float! especially in
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On 05/06/08 13:48, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:32:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/04/08 00:49, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>> [snip]
In this configuration, X does *not* start on boot. The wife and
daughter must log in
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:32:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/04/08 00:49, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> [snip]
> >>
> >> In this configuration, X does *not* start on boot. The wife and
> >> daughter must log in at the Scary Black Screen Of Doom.
> >>
> > That is correct. We boot to the console
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:52:27PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> I was just trying to show another way of solving the problems.
and this is a good thing
> My presumption was that cron was part of the LSB.
it might wery well be so, but one can disable it (in my workstation it
is installed to satify
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:41:52AM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:37:21AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> > why not have a script that is run by root at @reboot that starts X
>
[snip]
> Your method would not directly work in my workstation which does not run
> any form
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:37:21AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> why not have a script that is run by root at @reboot that starts X
if I understand correctly, you need cron for this (and, as you note,
this also can be used for users other than root).
Since init cannot be avoided (or, more exactly, a
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:10:00PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sun May 4 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > For her password only, couldn't you use one of those low-security thumb
> > readers or a USB key instead of a password?
>
> she has a USB stick.. how would that work?? Her new Inspiron
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:22:42PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:20:57AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > On Sun May 4 2008, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > > the login is automatically done.
> > automatic with passwords?
>
> see man login, option "-f"
>
> If yo
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On 05/04/08 11:35, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 06:37:40AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/04/08 06:32, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>>> On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world
On Sun May 4 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> For her password only, couldn't you use one of those low-security thumb
> readers or a USB key instead of a password?
she has a USB stick.. how would that work?? Her new Inspiron doesn't have the
thumb reader, the XPS does..
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On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 06:37:40AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/04/08 06:32, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world who can
> >> overcome their "fear" of the SBSOD. Right???
> >
> > my wife doesn't like typi
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:20:57AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sun May 4 2008, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > the login is automatically done.
> automatic with passwords?
see man login, option "-f"
If you do not want fully automatic logins, consider something in
/etc/inittab like
3:23:r
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 07:36:02AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sun May 4 2008, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > But you should also carefully consider: is it a really good idea to have
> > one (or more) automatically started X session ?
>
> when the computer boots, the first thing(s) I do is
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> On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world who can
>> overcome their "fear" of the SBSOD. Right???
>
> my wife doesn't like typing, she likes clicking mic
On Sun May 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Certainly there are more than 4 females in this world who can
> overcome their "fear" of the SBSOD. Right???
my wife doesn't like typing, she likes clicking mice. She also likes to
garden, and she does wonders outside, so when she says she doesn't like
ch
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On 05/04/08 00:49, Marc Shapiro wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> In this configuration, X does *not* start on boot. The wife and
>> daughter must log in at the Scary Black Screen Of Doom.
>>
> That is correct. We boot to the console and login from there, then
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:06:22PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > alias startx='startx -- :0 vt07'
> > alias startx='startx -- :1 vt08'
> > alias startx='startx -- :2 vt09'
> so, you don't automagically start the X server on bootup,
if you RE
Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Sure. This is my alias for startx:
alias startx='startx -- :0 vt07'
My wife and daughter use:
alias startx='startx --
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> In this configuration, X does *not* start on boot. The wife and
> daughter must log in at the Scary Black Screen Of Doom.
Is __that__ what people mean by getting a Black Screen? I thought they
meant they got a totally blank black s
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On 05/03/08 13:06, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>> Sure. This is my alias for startx:
>>
>> alias startx='startx -- :0 vt07'
>>
>> My wife and daughter use:
>>
>> alias startx='startx -- :1 vt08'
>>
On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> >
>
> Sure. This is my alias for startx:
>
> alias startx='startx -- :0 vt07'
>
> My wife and daughter use:
>
> alias startx='startx -- :1 vt08'
> and
> alias startx='startx -- :2 vt09'
>
> The sessions usually get started in that order, b
Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Sat May 3 2008, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I have three X sessions running on my box. All started with startx.
Each user has an alias for startx that uses a specified VT. It makes no
difference what order the sessions are started in, ech person gets a
session on the sam
On Sat May 3 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> How can a process be in the middle of something, yet the system is 49%
> idle with 0% wait, while ffmpg is 100%. Or is this a multi-core system
> and ffmpeg isn't multi-threaded?
yes and yes. Intel Core Duo and ffmpeg is multi-threaded..
Multiple CPUs
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:18:25AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Fri May 2 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I'm in the middle of a movie conversion using ffmpeg and I am getting:
> top - 08:17:17 up 19:26, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 1.36, 1.45
> Tasks: 174 total, 3 running, 169 sleeping
On Fri May 2 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I don't think anyone said that XFCE4 used as much CPU power as KDE, its
> the memory thing that makes GTK2 a pain for me. While I use Konq for
> most browsing there are a couple of websites I use that have bugs that
> only Iceweasel can ignore. I need
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
If God had wanted Man to use multi-seat, He would have let it be
used with startx.
Absolutely true. However, an oversight in creation (which is eternal
and constant) is providing VT's which each videocard. This causes a
difficulty for using startx
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 11:03:58AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Fri May 2 2008, andy wrote:
> > Cheers Mike (& everyone else who has contributed). I downloaded OpenBox
> > and am running it within Gnome after rebooting. I would say that Xfce4
> > has some very serious memory holes at present
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:59:16AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Absolutely true. However, an oversight in creation (which is eternal and
> constant) is providing VT's which each videocard. This causes a
> difficulty for using startx for any user except the first one.
Who needs a video card
On Fri May 2 2008 14:20:14 andy wrote:
> If they float and are not ducks ... nor made of wood, then they must be
> ... ?
Very small rocks?
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On Fri May 2 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > If they float and are not ducks ... nor made of wood, then they must be
> > ... ?
>
> Positively buoyant non-wooden non-ducks. Or witches.
hey, wait, **I** can float! especially in salt water:) but not with my laptop
on my lap!
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On 05/02/08 16:20, andy wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/02/08 15:50, Alex Samad wrote:
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On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:10:50AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
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Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:10:50AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
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A heretical notion perhaps...
Heretics get burned at th
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On 05/02/08 15:50, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:10:50AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
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>> [snip]
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>>> A heretical notion perhaps...
>> Heretics get burned at the stake.
>
> That makes them
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> On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
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> > A heretical notion perhaps...
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> Heretics get burned at the stake.
That makes them witches, but test t
Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/02/08 09:13, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/01/08 16:55, Mike Bird wrote:
[snip]
You have two gdm's, and xfce desktop, and a lot of KDE runnin
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On 05/02/08 09:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 05/02/08 09:13, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/01/08 16:55, Mike Bird wrote:
[snip]
> You have two gdm's, and xfce desktop, and a lot of KDE
On Fri May 2 2008, andy wrote:
> Cheers Mike (& everyone else who has contributed). I downloaded OpenBox
> and am running it within Gnome after rebooting. I would say that Xfce4
> has some very serious memory holes at present - my system was just
> grinding to a halt.
well, I just switched from KD
Ron Johnson wrote:
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Ron Johnson wrote:
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You have two gdm's, and xfce desktop, and a lot of KDE running.
You have seve
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>> On 05/01/08 16:55, Mike Bird wrote:
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>>> You have two gdm's, and xfce desktop, and a lot of KDE running.
>>> You have seve
Mike Bird wrote:
8< snip, snip
kbuildsycoca normally only runs for several seconds after changing
something in KDE. If it's running non-stop you have a problem.
It's probably safe just to kill kbuildsycoca but a reboot would be
kinder.
As for iceape-bin, it shouldn't be using that much CPU exc
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