Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Mart van de Wege
Andrei POPESCU writes: > > Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux > because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. > > [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired > changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. > > Kind re

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/31/2014 1:34 PM, Mike McGinn wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> >> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrot

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/31/2014 1:10 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >> I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I >> want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients >> are changing distributions. Period. > > I think t

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/01/2015 5:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >> I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the >> way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so >> my clients ar

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Simon
On 31 December 2014 18:10:00 GMT+00:00, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >> I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I >> want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients >> are changing distributions. Per

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Mike McGinn
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > The people there have enough to do at work, and like to

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I > want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients > are changing distributions. Period. I think the point some are trying to make is that Debian's dire

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-31 Thread Mart van de Wege
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life >>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or >>> interested) in spending their life work

Re: Fwd: Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 10:07 PM, William Unruh wrote: >> >> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or interested

Fwd: Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread William Unruh
> >On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life >>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or >>> interested) in spending their life working on Linux. >> >> If

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life >> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or >> interested) in spending their life working on Linux. > > If Debian i

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life >> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or >> interested) in spending their life working on Linux. > > I

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life > outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or > interested) in spending their life working on Linux. If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 9:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros now. >> They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It will >> probably take two years for them to get another distro ready for >>

Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/30/2014 at 09:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros >> now. They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It >> will probably take two years for them to get another distro read

Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros now. > They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It will > probably take two years for them to get another distro ready for > production. If switching to systemd is their mai