on Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:31:48PM -0500, Mike M ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:04:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
>
> > Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as
> > disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run
> > debootstrap i
Hello
Mike M (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:04:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
>
>> Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as
>> disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run
>> debootstrap in that directory and install a basi
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:04:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as
> disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run
> debootstrap in that directory and install a basic system.
>
> I then chroot into it and then updat
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:49, Mike M wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> > On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote:
> > > Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to
> > > mix and match software from all branches?
> >
> > That d
On Monday 09 February 2004 03:49 pm, Mike M wrote:
> What I want is an up-to-date hardware configurator and all the
> blessings of stable. This will most likely never be available. It
> seems impossible.
You could try MEPIS. It can be freely downloaded, and can be installed or
run as a Live CD.
Hello
Mike M (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> To use Debian on the latest hardware then you must use unstable or
> testing, which exposes you to possible broken packages.
That is not always correct, because in many cases it is sufficient to
only use a newer Kernel (e.g. from backports.org, or self
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:29:37 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:11:29AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
>> > What would you suggest as an alternative? I've heard calls for Morphix,
>> > but that's a derivitive of Knoppix.
>>
>> I'd suggest them putting the Woody CD in the drive
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote:
> > Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to
> > mix and match software from all branches?
>
> That depends on how you define "just works". All branches exc
Monique Y. Herman bounceswoosh.org> writes:
>
> On 2004-02-09, Andreas Janssen penned:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I think discover can also run at boot time and load the drivers for
> > you.
>
> I just set up linux from scratch on a machine using the netinstall CD ,
> and it gave me the option to do t
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:11:29AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > What would you suggest as an alternative? I've heard calls for Morphix,
> > but that's a derivitive of Knoppix.
>
> I'd suggest them putting the Woody CD in the drive and running the
> installer. Woody's installer is pretty brain-d
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:52:24PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote:
> Ball in the camp of the nay-sayers: If someone doesn't know this, how
> would installing Woody and updating (of except Woody) be any simpler ?
It's easy to track woody because woody never gets updated. You only get
minor security update
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 01:10:33 -0500 (EST)
Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm fairly new to the world of Debian, and it's varients. To get to the
> point where I'm at, I've been playing around and installed a number of
> distributions. (SuSE, Fed
Hi,
* Krikket wrote on 09.02.2004 (01:10):
> it has out-performed the other Linuxes in one way or another. (My problem
> with the standard Debian install is with configuring the kernel. At this
> point, I just don't get it. I need to learn a lot more before I can do
> that part on my own.) The
On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote:
> Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to
> mix and match software from all branches?
That depends on how you define "just works". All branches except stable
have a chance of broken packages, so based on that stable
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:55:01AM +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Knoppix uses software from all branches of Debian: stable, testing,
> unstable and experimental. This means it is nearly possible to turn
> Knoppix into Debian stable, supplying you with security updates and so
> on. In the end, if
On 2004-02-09, Andreas Janssen penned:
[snip]
> I think discover can also run at boot time and load the drivers for
> you.
I just set up linux from scratch on a machine using the netinstall CD ,
and it gave me the option to do this. Sound, network, etc were all
there without me having to figur
* M.Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040209 09:50]:
> Installation may be trickier than other distros (although that's
> changing with the new Sarge installer), but once you're up and
> running, it's a beautiful thing.
For the most part I agree. Last summer, however, I had to set up an
old, undocu
Krikket gothpoodle.com> writes:
> LibraNet looks good, but I don't want to pony up some cash until I know
> which branch it's based on. Similar difficulties with Mepis and Xandros.
The maintainers of LibraNet recently created their own repository of Debian
packages. They mix testing/unstable;
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:50:08 +0100, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> I'd just like to clarify a point here. It's one thing to have a running
> system, and it's another thing to have an up to date system. The best
> way to have an up to date system is to have a system that makes it easy
> to upgrade a
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 01:10, Krikket wrote:
> I'm fairly new to the world of Debian, and it's varients. To get to the
> point where I'm at, I've been playing around and installed a number of
> distributions. (SuSE, Fedora Core 1, Red Hat 9, Debian, Knoppix, Gentoo,
> Mandrake, FreeBSD, and probab
On Monday 09 February 2004 01:10 am, Krikket wrote:
> LibraNet looks good, but I don't want to pony up some cash until I know
> which branch it's based on. Similar difficulties with Mepis and
> Xandros.
You can download a "classic" (older) version of LibraNet for free, and
MEPIS can be downloade
Hello
Krikket (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> This recent thread on Knoppix took me by surprise. From my point of
> view, it has out-performed the other Linuxes in one way or another.
> (My problem with the standard Debian install is with configuring the
> kernel. At this point, I just don't
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:10:33AM -0500, Krikket wrote:
> This recent thread on Knoppix took me by surprise.
Why? No one has made any statement about the quality of Knoppix. It's a
perfectly fine LiveCD. I've not played with Morphix, but supposedly it's
an equally good one.
> Besides, I don't
On 2004-02-09, Krikket penned:
[snip]
>
> What took me by surprise, when I started poking around with Knoppix is
> that it uses a number of different branches off the tree. To get
> gnome running, I had to use *experimental*. But it is running, and
> without a problem. (Although not enough time
I'm fairly new to the world of Debian, and it's varients. To get to the
point where I'm at, I've been playing around and installed a number of
distributions. (SuSE, Fedora Core 1, Red Hat 9, Debian, Knoppix, Gentoo,
Mandrake, FreeBSD, and probably one or two others that I'm forgetting.)
I've been
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