On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:54, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 22:48, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
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> That's how I always got to unstable. I do recommend stripping down
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On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
That's how I always got to unstable. I do recommend stripping down to
just the base install before trying it if you want everythin
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
> >
> > It's not significantly more radical than stable
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
> >
> > It's not significantly more radical than stable
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical
>
> It's not significantly more radical than stable to testing. I don't
> think there's much benefit in trying to go from sta
> Is Knoppix based on Debian stable or Debian testing? Or am I looking at acompletely
> different animal? Running Knoppix I got an entirely different looking desktop than I
> did installing Woody and selecting a desktop install. And is the Debian Desktop
> subproject at a point where I could jus
>
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/02 Thu AM 10:58:25 EDT
> To: Debian-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average
>
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 09:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> > > On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > > > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
>
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> > >
> > > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
> [snip]
> > Thank
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> >
> > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
[snip]
> Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run Mandrake and SuSE
>
BruceG wrote:
Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable?
Just edit it with your favorite editor (I use nano); you'll probably
have about three lines in it, like so:
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-n
On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> Edward Murrell wrote:
> > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
>
> Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
>
> as a replacement for Win, you should try Knoppix. Really. It runs straight
> from CD, and it has a very good hardware detection. You can get
Edward Murrell wrote:
> [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
as a replacement for Win, you should try Knoppix. Really. It runs straight
from CD, and it has a very good hardware detection. You can get it at
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/
After installing it to disk
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 21:33, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Gak! And send him into Dependency Hell?
>
> That's nonsense. People like to throw that crap out, but users cause it
> for themselves when they install RPM's from random places, same
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Gak! And send him into Dependency Hell?
That's nonsense. People like to throw that crap out, but users cause it
for themselves when they install RPM's from random places, same as Debian
users cause it for the
on Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
> somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
> rendered his machine unusable. He's asked me to r
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 01:08:59PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 12:14, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I should advice somebody new to Linux, I would say RedHat, tha
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 10:59, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have to admit that I don't know squat about Slackware. I have never
> used it, apparantly it's pretty good though. A friend of mine says it's
> "the only Linux he'll ever use" but I wouldn't count too much into that
> - he also said
Hi,
I have to admit that I don't know squat about Slackware. I have never
used it, apparantly it's pretty good though. A friend of mine says it's
"the only Linux he'll ever use" but I wouldn't count too much into that
- he also said that "Windows is going to be the only OS I'll ever use"
about two
Hi,
That is not nonsense. I used to have Mandrake 8 running on one of my
computers and it sure as hell was dependency hell. Even with Mandrake's
own RPMs for Mandrake 8, I sometimes was unable to install software
because of
- unmet dependencies: libraries could not be found even though they were
Since I can't reply to everyone, I'll reply to myself.
Peter - Cheers for the link to table of equivalents. Much Appreciated.
;) http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/
Several things to note;
I'm not buying Libranet. While I support what they're doing, it's more
than the guy wants to spe
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:47, csj wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:14:38 +0200,
> Manrtin Jungowski wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> > > > David Palmer. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I should advice somebody new to Linux,
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:14:38 +0200,
Manrtin Jungowski wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> > > David Palmer. wrote:
> > >
> > > If I should advice somebody new to Linux, I would say
> > > RedHat, that's where I started. RedHa
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:33, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Gak! And send him into Dependency Hell?
>
> That's nonsense. People like to throw that crap out, but users cause it
> for themselves when they install RPM's from random places, same
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Gak! And send him into Dependency Hell?
That's nonsense. People like to throw that crap out, but users cause it
for themselves when they install RPM's from random places, same as Debian
users cause it for themselves when they install
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 12:14, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> > > David Palmer. wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:13 +0200
> > > > Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> > David Palmer. wrote:
> > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:13 +0200
> > > Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 02:31, Tom wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:29, sturla wrote:
> David Palmer. wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:13 +0200
> > Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 02:31, Tom wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell wrote:
[snip
Hi,
> If I should advice somebody new to Linux, I would say RedHat, that's
> where I started.
> RedHat 9 has a great installer and contains anything a normal user will
> ever need, including OpenOffice.Org.
I also would put Ximians XD2 on top of that. I use it on some machines and
am very happy w
David Palmer. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:13 +0200
Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 02:31, Tom wrote:
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell wrote:
Hi there,
A friend of mine has had Win
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:49:13 +0200
Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 02:31, Tom wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's
> > > getting s
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 02:31, Tom wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
> > somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
> > rendered his mach
Hi Yall & Eward,
who wrote at some length below.
The most friendly Debian I've tried, given the generation of hardware
you are talking about, is Xandros Tux 1.0.
It auto-detected & loaded the nVida drivers, when I ran there kit.
If your friend can hold off a month or two, a newer version of
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:46:11 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:13, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (28/09/03 00:39), Peter Nuttall wrote:
> > > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:19 am, Edward Murrell wrote:
> [snip]
> > > If you are looking for these things, could I recomm
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:46:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:13, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (28/09/03 00:39), Peter Nuttall wrote:
> > > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:19 am, Edward Murrell wrote:
> [snip]
> > > If you are looking for these things, could I recom
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:13, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (28/09/03 00:39), Peter Nuttall wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:19 am, Edward Murrell wrote:
[snip]
> > If you are looking for these things, could I recommend mandrake linux over
> > debian. IMHO debian is for the power user who is ready t
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 11:19:06AM +1200, Edward Murrell wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
> somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
> rendered his machine unusable. He's asked me to reinstall Windows, an
On (28/09/03 00:39), Peter Nuttall wrote:
> On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:19 am, Edward Murrell wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
> > somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
> > rendered his machine unusa
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:19 am, Edward Murrell wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
> somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
> rendered his machine unusable. He's asked me to reinstall Windows, and
> Linux i
Hi there,
A friend of mine has had Windows installed for over a year. He's getting
somewhat sick of it due to the recent spate of virus and spyware that's
rendered his machine unusable. He's asked me to reinstall Windows, and
Linux in a dual boot configuration.
The problem is this; while I've bee
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