Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4b30e4ee.7010...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: They are not supported by the Debian installer kernel. They have to be installed *seperately*. This is neither true, nor desired. Any module

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM: Many systems don't have wired Ethernet, but may have wireless. Most systems have wired ethernet. Few have _only_ wireless. Most laptops have both. I'd venture to guess that the

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Johannes Wiedersich put forth on 12/22/2009 4:10 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM: All this might be valid statistics, but they are beyond the point. The point in this thread is the question from a particular OP who does *not* have access to a wired

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 12:51:46 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Why are you trying to beat me over the head with a statement I did not make? And why are you so determined to rubbish the OP, who gave very valid reasons for eschewing cabled ethernet? Why does it, in any way, shape or form, harm you

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Johannes Wiedersich put forth on 12/22/2009 4:10 AM: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM: All this might be valid statistics, but they are beyond the point. The point in this thread is the

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4b30e4ee.7010...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: If there are still any non-free drivers present in debian's kernel, those will be removed. Some/many non-free, non-GPL or similar drivers are available for Debian, but they are not released by Debian. They are not part of

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-22 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:10:31 +0100 Johannes Wiedersich johan...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de wrote: ... Which wireless is fully supported by debian and free software? I don't think there is *any* on the planet that works without proprietary, binary non-free code. Yes, there is. Many Atheros

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 12. 2009 22:35:26 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. For example, if you have an unsupported wireless card, while at the same time wireless is the

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Klistvud put forth on 12/21/2009 5:45 AM: For example, if you have an unsupported wireless card, while at the same time wireless is the only connectivity available at your location/work/home. It's my situation, precisely: I have no less than TWO unsupported wifi cards on (both) my computers

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 21. 12. 2009 13:38:01 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): while at the same time wireless is the only connectivity available at your location/work/home. Being a non-native English speaker, I may have made myself unsufficiently clear: my scenario is real-life, and by no means bogus. I do

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Consultores1
El lun, 21-12-2009 a las 12:45 +0100, Klistvud escribió: Dne, 20. 12. 2009 22:35:26 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. For example, if you have an

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Consultores1
El lun, 21-12-2009 a las 15:29 +0100, Klistvud escribió: Dne, 21. 12. 2009 13:38:01 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): while at the same time wireless is the only connectivity available at your location/work/home. Being a non-native English speaker, I may have made myself unsufficiently

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Tom H
Any PC, desktop or laptop (or server), built in the last 6+ years has built-in wired ethernet. (If yours don't have it, you went _way_ out of your way to find machines without it) So, in your scenario, instead of throwing your hands up crying I can't net install because the wireless cards

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting Stan Hoeppner on 2009-12-20 15:35:26: Local media installs are for pussies, or masochists. ;) Or those lacking a decent network connection from where the machine will primarily be used. :) Blessed Solstice. -- _ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Against ( )

RE: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Kevin Ross
From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:s...@hardwarefreak.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:38 AM Your scenario is bogus, because all semi-modern PCs have wired ethernet. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?! Well, my laptop has a broken Ethernet port. I could go and spend money on a USB Ethernet device, but

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Kevin Ross put forth on 12/21/2009 2:13 PM: Many systems don't have wired Ethernet, but may have wireless. Most systems have wired ethernet. Few have _only_ wireless. Most laptops have both. I'd venture to guess that the few that only have wireless are the tiny netbooks. Actually, just

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:09:46PM -0800, Cecil Knutson wrote: Dear List, I just tried to install Debian 4.0r4a-i386 (Etch) on a Dell Dimension 8400, Pentium 4/3.oGHz, 4GB RAM, using two different sets of DVDs. Pretty powerful one. With either set of DVDs, the install

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Kevin Ross
Osamu Aoki wrote: Etch is obsoleted distribution. Unless you have specific reason, please use current release: lenny. http://www.debian.org/distrib/ I have no idea what is hapening on your system. Are you connected to network and tried to download packages? URL for archive has changed so

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross wrote: Only Woody and older are on there. And Sarge. Forgot about Sarge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-12-20 10:11 +0100, Kevin Ross wrote: Etch isn't obsolete, it's oldstable. It still has security updates. Which will stop in two months. Why bother installing it when you have to upgrade to Lenny soon anyway? It won't be obsolete until Squeeze is released. Wrong, the support for

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Cecil Knutson
Hello, Osamu, The system is connected to a home DSL network. I did not try to download any packages, but that doesn't mean the install program didn't. I was using the four-DVDs of the standard Etch distribution. It does make sense that the install would hang if it tried to get files

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Cecil Knutson put forth on 12/20/2009 1:47 PM: Hello, Osamu, The system is connected to a home DSL network. I did not try to download any packages, but that doesn't mean the install program didn't. I was using the four-DVDs of the standard Etch distribution. It does make sense

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 20, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Cecil Knutson put forth on 12/20/2009 1:47 PM: Hello, Osamu, The system is connected to a home DSL network. Just do a pure net install and be done with it already. Hi Cecil, Stan's suggestion is correct, in spite of the way he

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:35:26PM EST, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [..] To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. By the time the media hits the shelves, there are hundreds of security updates you have to

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:12:29PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:35:26PM EST, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [..] To be completely honest, I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would install any Linux distro from local media these days. By the time the media

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Rick Thomas put forth on 12/20/2009 4:10 PM: Stan's suggestion is correct, in spite of the way he chose to state it (let's assume he was being humorous...) Humor was my intent. I guess this is why I'm a computer geek instead of a stand up comic. ;) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian Etch Install

2009-12-20 Thread Justin The Cynical
Rick Thomas wrote: The Lenny businesscard iso at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-businesscard.iso is only 36 MBytes. It contains everything you need to start the installation. It will dynamically download all the other packages you need for

Debian Etch Install

2009-12-19 Thread Cecil Knutson
Dear List, I just tried to install Debian 4.0r4a-i386 (Etch) on a Dell Dimension 8400, Pentium 4/3.oGHz, 4GB RAM, using two different sets of DVDs. With either set of DVDs, the install routine would hang just after the Tasksel dialog box asking to choose the software to install. I

Debian Etch install bugzilla

2007-12-11 Thread rockymaxsource
Hey, I'm trying to install bugzilla on my old machine which runs Debian etch. Aptitude install bugzilla gave me the below error code: ---Error begin dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password /var/lib/dpkg/info/bugzilla.postinst: line 107:

Re: Problem setting screen resolution after Debian Etch install...

2006-06-13 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:52 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: I just finished with a sucessful install of Debian Etch. However, I am having some problems setting the screen resolution on my GNOME Desktop. The highest resolution available is 1024x768. I would like to set it to a higher

Problem setting screen resolution after Debian Etch install...

2006-06-12 Thread Redefined Horizons
I just finished with a sucessful install of Debian Etch. However, I am having some problems setting the screen resolution on my GNOME Desktop. The highest resolution available is 1024x768. I would like to set it to a higher resolution. I have already editied the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and added