Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-09 Thread dman
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:23:16AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.09.0118 +0100]: | > (I can't filter on IPs anyways since 99.99% of my mail comes out of | > pony-express.cs.rit.edu due to my .forward file there, if you use | > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" it

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.09.0118 +0100]: > What does it take to setup an RBL domain? My guess is that you just > need a DNS server. pretty much. to RBL an IP 1.2.3.4, you create two entries in a zone, say rbl.madduck.net (which happens to be one btw...) 4.3.2.1 IN A 127.0.0.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:40:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach Karsten M. Self [2002.01.07.2215 +0100]: | > ...how would one do this via procmail, filtering on 'Recieved' | > lines? Anything from this domain should be forwarded to a spam | > complain addresses and shitcanned. |

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-08 Thread Ian Balchin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. procmail) to > filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" like myself can learn > to do? I am also just about to invest time in procmail send an email

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.08.0235 +0100]: > > you are doing apt-get upgrade and it tries to upgrade to woody. > > no, i'm not. i'm doing apt-get upDATE and then apt-get install ... > it's not like it tries to remove the old gimp, and then install the > new one, or l

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 08 Jan 2002 12:33:55AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > that's the problem with apt in potato, it can't pin. do you still > have that debian.madduck.net line in /etc/apt/source.list? i could > offer a kernel update and the package compiled and ready for > potato... yup, still there. that could

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Karsten M. Self [2002.01.07.2215 +0100]: > $ nmap -sL 216.242.0-255.0-255 i think i'd prefer 216.242.0.0/16 ... > ...how would one do this via procmail, filtering on 'Recieved' lines? > Anything from this domain should be forwarded to a spam complain > addresses and shitcanned.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.2205 +0100]: > > so if you really want to install it, > > yes, i do; that's why i wrote to the list. you have an irrefutable point, turkey! > > then comment your potato/stable entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and > > provide similar one

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:05:32PM -0500, dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:20:12AM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote: > | dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > | > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:27:32PM +0100, marTin insinuated: > apt-get in potato can't handle multiple distributions. that would explain it. > first of all, you'd need entries for potato and sid in > /etc/apt/sources.list (which i don't think you have since *i* didn't > put them there), right, wel

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.1541 +0100]: > Except for this morning I woke to see a hundred emails filtered into my > spam folder by spamassasin after it was upgraded via apt yesterday. > Email from lists, people I know aren't in relays, etc. damn, and i *just* upgraded.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread Brian Clark
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 07. 2002 04:16]: > spamassassin is quite nice and *s* easy... Except for this morning I woke to see a hundred emails filtered into my spam folder by spamassasin after it was upgraded via apt yesterday. Email from lists, people I know aren't in relays

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.0605 +0100]: > No, you have only DoS'd yourself. The config I posted only checks the > blacklist of the local user the message is addressed to, not all > local users' blacklists. very cool. exim is moving up the list! > One of these days I'll look

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Paul E Condon
MH wrote: > > "Nori" == Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > Nori> from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README: " On Debian, > Nori> you can apt-get it from unstable, thanks to Duncan Findlay." > > Nori> debian confirms this at > Nori> http://packages.debia

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:32:54PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.2015 +0100]: | > > the exim setup proposed it surely interesting as it allows SMTP | > > level filtering, but you can only really do this on a single-user | > > system. after some exp

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.2015 +0100]: > > the exim setup proposed it surely interesting as it allows SMTP > > level filtering, but you can only really do this on a single-user > > system. after some experience with anti-spam filtering, i have > > decided that system-wide fil

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 04:54:46PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach Jens Gecius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.1520 +0100]: | > OK, so, could you post your scripts? That might be very helpful for | > others. | > | > Another question: you check in exim if that sender is a spam-address.

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:20:12AM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote: | dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: | > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. | > | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unw

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jens Gecius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.1520 +0100]: > OK, so, could you post your scripts? That might be very helpful for > others. > > Another question: you check in exim if that sender is a spam-address. > How exactly does that work? Do you just check the headers and then > deny

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Wayne Topa
Nori Heikkinen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > > RTFM: > > man procmail > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README > > so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myse

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Jens Gecius
dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > | like myself can learn to do? > > If you would like, I

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Joey Hess
Nori Heikkinen wrote: > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (currently running potato) Well potato's apt does not support that syntax, or pi

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Nori Heikkinen: > on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > > RTFM: > > man procmail > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README > > so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myself, now i > have a question ... >

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread MH
> "Nori" == Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Nori> from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README: " On Debian, Nori> you can apt-get it from unstable, thanks to Duncan Findlay." Nori> debian confirms this at Nori> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/interprete

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread pauwel
right command is apt-get -t unstable install spamassassin pauwel Nori Heikkinen wrote: on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: RTFM: man procmail http://spamassassin.taint.org/ http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README so of course, having written this, and

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Martin Würtele
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:46:30AM -0600, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (currently running potato) first you

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.06.0746 +0100]: > so why can't i do: > > orange:~# apt-get install spamassassin/unstable > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package spamassassin/unstable > > ? am i doing it wrong? (curren

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: <...> > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > like myself can learn to do? Google wi

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread dman
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: | Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. | procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" | like myself can learn to do? If you would like, I can send you what I have. I made a script I

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Joel Mayes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. procmail) to > filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" like myself can learn > to do? > apt-get install spamassian then

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:27:13PM -0800, Paul E Condon insinuated: > Where is there a HOWTO or tutorial on using available tools (e.g. > procmail) to filter spam? Is it something that the "unwashed masses" > like myself can learn to do? RTFM: man procmail http://spamassassin.taint.org/ http://spamas

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-06 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:07:43PM -0600, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > RTFM: > man procmail > http://spamassassin.taint.org/ > http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/README so of course, having written this, and having rtfm'ed myself, now i have a question ... from http://spamassassin.taint.org/dist/REA

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-05 Thread Paul E Condon
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:43:46AM -0500, Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi > > > > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > > probably the number one source for

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:43:46AM -0500, Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi > > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > probably the number one source for the email address snooping spammers

RE: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread justin cunningham
: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam John Hasler wrote: > I'd rank the Web equal to or above Usenet. I receive a substantial amount > of spam at my debian.org address, and it can only be obtained via the Web. Well, or on cd. -- see shy jo, who sees a new market for debian source cd's :-)

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
John Hasler wrote: > I'd rank the Web equal to or above Usenet. I receive a substantial amount > of spam at my debian.org address, and it can only be obtained via the Web. Well, or on cd. -- see shy jo, who sees a new market for debian source cd's :-)

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Wendell Cochran
Alec writes: >> Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under >> linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! >> Debian mailing lists are archived on the Web and our email addresses aren't >>even scrambled! John writes: > USENET is probably the number one sour

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Alec wrote: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is You're point? If your mail server has decent spam trapping (which it should), you shouldn't have a problem. I wish lists

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Alec writes: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! Debian mailing lists are archived on the Web and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! > USENET is probably the number one source for the email ad

Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Craig Dickson
Alec wrote: > Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under > linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is > probably the number one source for the email address snooping spammers. Can > they catch up with all of us one day? The list archives are

Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

2002-01-03 Thread Alec
Hi Debian mailing lists are mirrored on (interfaced to) USENET under linux.debian.*, and our email addresses aren't even scrambled! USENET is probably the number one source for the email address snooping spammers. Can they catch up with all of us one day? Alec