Debian on the shuttle

1997-03-08 Thread Dave Van Dijck
* Reply to a message in linux-debian-users. Jason Killen wrote in a message to Dave Van Dijck: --==OT-RSN: MOVED by text! JK From: Jason Killen [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK To: W. Joseph Mantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] JK cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org JK Why does everyone keep saying that X should

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-03-08 Thread Paul Seelig
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe a new project could be started to create a good desktop that takes a few good idea's from other desktops like win95 and OS/2's PM, and adds idea's of it's own. It has been tried several times before,

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-28 Thread Christian Leutloff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: One must be brief in these things, otherwise nobody reads them. You're right. It was worth reading your mail - I hope that's get printed all over the world! pgpmMv0M0tuuV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-24 Thread Tan Wee Yeh
Why does everyone keep saying that X should look like Win 95. I don't want This I totally disagree!!! I'd rather prefer X to work more like OS/2 :P. AFAIK, win95's interface is not as Object- Oriented (OO) as M$ has claimed. OS/2 users should know. I particularly find win95 difficult to

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread W. Joseph Mantle
Bruce: Who is the target audience of this press release? Persons who've never heard of Linux? I'd suggest that you target persons who use commercial versions of UNIX on expensive workstations at the office, and Windows 95 at home. This person has probably heard of Linux, but has little or no

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Shaya Potter
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: From: David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nor any suggestion that any other Linux distribution may have ever existed. It really sounds like the Debian team finished the job and made Linux into a useable system. The task was not to write the history

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Douglas Stewart
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: It is a sort of Press Release whipped-up by the Debian Project Leader. I really didn't intend to chastise him for this - I am a staunch Debian advocate. I just wanted to remark that the press release was a bit low-key on attributing the GNU

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Bruce Perens
It is possible to build an operating system from software which is available from ftp/web sites around the world. Typically one starts with the Linux kernel and adds GNU utilities and compiler. However, building an functional operating system from workable parts can be an enormous task

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-21 Thread Jason Killen
Why does everyone keep saying that X should look like Win 95. I don't want to get into a shouting match about which is easer to use and those people who like the Win 95 look and feel can stick with it. I just don't like the fact that some people feel we should masqurade(?), I feel we should

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
First and foremost - great going guys! But... It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Finnish college student (in fact, he isn't one anymore) and I believe he should have been given more credit, at least his name should have appeared in the press

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: First and foremost - great going guys! But... It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Neither of Richard Stallman or the GNU team... // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread David Gaudine
On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: First and foremost - great going guys! But... It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Neither of Richard Stallman or the GNU team... Nor any

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
Jonas Bofjall wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: First and foremost - great going guys! But... It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Neither of Richard Stallman or the GNU team... // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Robert Nicholson
I haven't read the article but perhaos the article is talking about the differences b/w the the debian and other distributions? If that's the case then the debian developers surely deserve most of the credit. On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Jonas Bofjall wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
Robert Nicholson wrote: I haven't read the article but perhaos the article is talking about the differences b/w the the debian and other distributions? If that's the case then the debian developers surely deserve most of the credit. It is a sort of Press Release whipped-up by the

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Bruce Perens
It saddened me to see no mention of Linus' name in the article. He is more than just a Finnish college student (in fact, he isn't one anymore) and I believe he should have been given more credit, at least his name should have appeared in the press release. No harm intended Bruce, but Linus'

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Bruce Perens
From: David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nor any suggestion that any other Linux distribution may have ever existed. It really sounds like the Debian team finished the job and made Linux into a useable system. The task was not to write the history of Linux, it was to explain a difficult concept

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Jonas Bofjall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither of Richard Stallman or the GNU team... I wasn't writing the credits for Linux. I had 65 lines in which to write a press release, and I went to 72. One must be brief in these things, otherwise nobody reads them. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very true! The article, IMHO, should have stated that the Debian project was a group of volunteers working hard to bring together the hard work of others, and not make it look like Debian is some new OS written by the Debian project, with nary a

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Bruce Perens
Seeing as how it looks like this is a release meant for the general public I deem it only fair that they think of Debian as an implementation of the GNU project and the Linux Kernel, and not as some new OS. I would prefer Debian stood on its own merit. I assumed that the public who would be

Re: Debian on the shuttle

1997-02-20 Thread Jason Killen
It does say debian (GNU/Linux...is that ok Mr. Stallman??) is going to space so you do have to expect the guys from debian, as any normal human, to talk about themselves more and just mention Linus. Basically I don't see any wrong doing, therefore no reason to point fingers and yell, but it would