On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:52:38 +0300,Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Lu, 22 apr 13, 01:03:41, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > I stayed with F12 almost 2 and a half years past its EOL. I didn't
> > like F15, my next usual upgrade, or the following releases, or the
> > direction Fedora was going. So, I
On Lu, 22 apr 13, 01:03:41, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> I stayed with F12 almost 2 and a half years past its EOL. I didn't
> like F15, my next usual upgrade, or the following releases, or the
> direction Fedora was going. So, I opted against upgrading, but 12 was
> having problems. Time for a
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:55:08 -0700
David Guntner wrote:
> Patrick Bartek grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> >
> >> From: Dave Thayer
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo
> >>> Mail acco
> On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
> > use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
> >
> > This are my Rocketmail settings:
> >
> > Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
> > Port: 995
> > Security:
Patrick Bartek grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
>> From: Dave Thayer
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>>
>>> How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo
>>> Mail accounts (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no
>>> option with th
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek wrote:
Hello Patrick,
>How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail
>accounts (I have
I use Claws Mail which, as you may know, started out as a branch of
Sylpheed.
Others have listed the settings required and also sa
When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
This are my Rocketmail settings:
Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 995
Security: SSL on a dedicated port
Authentication: Password
Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
> use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
>
> This are my Rocketmail settings:
>
> Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
> Port: 995
> Security: SSL on a dedica
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 03:27 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 17:38 +0200, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
> http://trojita.flaska.net/
Thank you, I'll take a look, assumed they are available by the Debian,
Ubuntu and Arch repositories.
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On Wed 24 Apr 2013 at 23:02:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Okay. I found the Yahoo IMAP help page. The POP help still states
> you need a "for pay" Yahoo Mail Plus account, but no mention of that
> for IMAP. I'll run a test. I already have Sylpheed on this system,
> and it is both POP or IM
> From: Dave Thayer
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>
>> How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts
> (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free
> accounts
> for POP3 or IMAP. It was speci
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> How? What MUA did you use? When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts
> (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free
> accounts for POP3 or IMAP. It was specifically said that if you wanted it,
> From: Brad Rogers
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
>> As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not
>> able to use a traditional MUA. It's browser-based only. However, if
>> you use the "pay" version, wh
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek wrote:
Hello Patrick,
>As far as I understand, with the free Yahoo Mail that I use, you're not
>able to use a traditional MUA. It's browser-based only. However, if
>you use the "pay" version, which is IMAP or POP-based, you can use any
>MU
> From: Anthony Campbell
>
> On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
>
> Yes; it wasn't entirely your (or Yahoo's) fault. I had some line
> From: Ralf Mardorf
>
> On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:43 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>> If you have any suggestions, I'll consider them. I have no dying
> loyalty to Yahoo.
>
> Stay with Yahoo, but use an MUA.
Can't use an MUA with the free version of Yahoo Mail. Browser only. At leas
> From: Ralf Mardorf
>
> On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> Are you *really* forced into using yahoo, it really is horrible (not
>> sure which is worse hotmail or yahoo.) for communicating on mailing
>> lists.
>
> Info:
>
> You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that
> > does work with the provider settings I need.
>
> There is geary.
> http://www.yorba.org/proj
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:32:41PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> OTOH, I didn't find another mailer that fit halfway to my needs and that
> does work with the provider settings I need.
There is geary.
http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/
I've never used it, myself, but it is an alternative to c
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 22:59 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Info:
> >
> > You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
> > I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the
> > pain Evolution and Xfce4, IOW the GNO
On 4/24/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Info:
>
> You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
> I'm using right now, it's Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, I'm only limited by the
> pain Evolution and Xfce4, IOW the GNOME crap does cause.
What are the pain points/ problems, with evolutio
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > From: Anthony Campbell
> >
> > On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> >> >
> >> >>> [snip]
> >>
> >> Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for
On 23 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
[snip]
> > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes which
> > make them annoying to read on a text-based email reader like mutt.
>
>
> Sorry 'bout that, but there's nothing much I can do about it from my end:
> It's Yahoo Mail t
On 23 Apr 2013, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> > > >
> > > >>> [snip]
> > >
> > > Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for t
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:43 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> If you have any suggestions, I'll consider them. I have no dying loyalty to
> Yahoo.
Stay with Yahoo, but use an MUA.
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On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Are you *really* forced into using yahoo, it really is horrible (not
> sure which is worse hotmail or yahoo.) for communicating on mailing
> lists.
Info:
You're free to use Yahoo with a MUA. Take a look at the email address
I'm using rig
> From: Chris Bannister
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>
>>
>> > From: Anthony Campbell
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >>
>> >
>> > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes
> which
>> > make them annoying to read on a text-
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37:13AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > From: Anthony Campbell
> >
> > On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> >> >
> >> >>> [snip]
> >>
> >> Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for
On 4/23/2013 15:19, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>
Snip
>>
>> Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
>>
>>
>
> Easy solution: Kill file. Bye.
>
> -- cmg
>
>
Seems like overkill.
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>>> Snip
>
> Hope the problem is solvable from your end.
>
>
Easy solution: Kill file. Bye.
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> > >
> > >>> [snip]
> >
> > Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
> > reply header. I can
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 11:37 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> With almost everything these days graphic and web-based, smartphone
> and tablet, the days of pure ASCII e-mail are gone for the most part.
No, the experiment "HTML email" miserably failed, that's why more and
more people switch to plain t
> From: Anthony Campbell
>
> On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> >
>> > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
>> >
>> >>> [snip]
>>
>> Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
> reply header. I cannot have my own custom reply header,
On 23 Apr 2013, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Another problem is that your posts are peppered with lots of codes which
> > make them annoying to read on a text-based email reader like mutt.
>
> Strange. I also use Mutt (with various patches) and I don't see any
> problem with Patrick's mail.
>
Inte
On 2013-04-23 07:57:11 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> > >
> > >>> [snip]
> >
> > Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's
> > reply header. I cannot have my
On 22 Apr 2013, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
> >
> >>> [snip]
>
> Yes, it would, but I use Yahoo mail for this list, and that is Yahoo's reply
> header. I cannot have my own custom reply header, nor can I opt not to have
> one at all. At
- Original Message -
>
>
> Patrick Bartek:
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Jochen Spieker
>>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade
On 04/21/2013 09:30 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two sh
- Original Message -
> From: Gary Dale
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
>
> [snip]
>
> As for staying with Wheezy, w
Patrick Bartek:
> - Original Message -
>> From: Jochen Spieker
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
It would be nice if you could trim that to one line.
>&
- Original Message -
> From: Jochen Spieker
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
>
> Patrick Bartek:
>>
>> I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for severa
On 2013-04-21 22:52:39 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Using dist-upgrade can
> > remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG!
>
> I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the
> "aptitude full-upgrade" command does not
On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote:
> Using dist-upgrade can
> remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG!
I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the "aptitude
full-upgrade" command does nothing without asking first, so there is no
question of it r
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > > I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
> > > upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
> > > significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
> > > the same thing. Ho
> > I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
> > upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
> > significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
> > the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using
> > dist-upgrade (or full-
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 08:03:20AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
> upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more
> significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do
> the same thing. However, I prefer to st
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade
upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant
changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing.
However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or
full-upgrade for apti
Patrick Bartek:
>
> I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as
> recommended[1] having been using "dist-upgrade" for upgrading it. My
> sources-list[2] is set to "Wheezy" and not "testing" as per those same
> instructions. When Wheezy is promoted to "Stable" should I switch to
>
I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as recommended[1]
having been using "dist-upgrade" for upgrading it. My sources-list[2] is set
to "Wheezy" and not "testing" as per those same instructions. When Wheezy is
promoted to "Stable" should I switch to "apt-get upgrade" instea
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