Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-05 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 04/09/12 21:43, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed That's certainly an opinion, and perhaps a commonly-repeated one, but an opinion non-the-less. +1 - I'm with Jon on this one.

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 09:41 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 04/09/12 21:43, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed That's certainly an opinion, and perhaps a commonly-repeated one,

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-05 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 05/09/12 09:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 09:41 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 04/09/12 21:43, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed That's certainly an opinion,

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
We shouldn't discuss pulseaudio again. There should be all the arguments pro and con pulseaudio in the archives. Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? Yes. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-05 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/09/12 09:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 09:41 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 04/09/12 21:43, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, pulseaudio

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 01:47 +, T o n g wrote: Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed and unable to work with some ALSA drivers. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread lee
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com writes: Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? It seems that pulseaudio adds another layer of complexity on top of alsa. If you don't need things that pulseaudio does, you don't need pulseaudio and can just use alsa, which you need in any case

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
! On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote: T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com writes: Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? It seems that pulseaudio adds another layer of complexity on top of alsa. If you don't need things that pulseaudio does, you don't need pulseaudio and can just use alsa

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: a howto got put up on the orca-list email list describing how to install a graphical user environment and have it come up talking and pulse in any of its forms is not part of how to do it, so the claim that pulse adds extra layers of complexity

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:47:53 +, T o n g wrote: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? As others have already said, yes, you need ALSA (or another kernel API as replacement like OSS) in order to have sound working in your system while the opposite is not true (ALSA does not need from

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:06:30PM +0200, lee wrote: Having that said, alsa doesn't fully work in that the microphone input of the on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to it. Pulseaudio won't fix that, and better don't ever run audacious ... Start a new thread, and no

no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:06:30PM +0200, lee wrote: Having that said, alsa doesn't fully work in that the microphone input of the on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to it. Pulseaudio won't fix that, and better

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:06:30PM +0200, lee wrote: Having that said, alsa doesn't fully work in that the microphone input of the on-board sound card is dead ever since

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hello lee, problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I don't remember what that was. Since then, the mic input of the card is dead

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed That's certainly an opinion, and perhaps a commonly-repeated one, but an opinion non-the-less. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hello lee, problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:50:49 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com suggested this: On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:47:53 +, T o n g wrote: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? As others have already said, yes, you need ALSA (or another kernel API as replacement like OSS) in order to have

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 13:54:47 -0700 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Kelly, Sounds like it is the Nvidia onboard HDA chip, not a card... Probably; I've not been following the thread too closely. I have my doubts that it is that easy to actually fry the mic input... So do I

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes: On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hello lee, problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I don't remember what that was. Since

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: This on-board card shows up in lspci as Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio Controller and is recognised fine by alsa. Sound output of that card works, and

Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-03 Thread T o n g
Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k23mk9$v3d$2...@ger.gmane.org

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-03 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 09/03/2012 08:47 PM, T o n g wrote: Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? Thanks Yes. Pulseaudio is merely a sound daemon, not an actual sound core complete with driver API. PA will need either ALSA or OSS to run on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ