Le 30.06.2014 20:33, Ric Moore a écrit :
On 06/30/2014 06:24 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 28.06.2014 05:14, slitt a écrit :
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:40:02 AM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote:
I use the grub
On Tue 01 Jul 2014 at 03:43:37 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:40:02 AM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
Why do you think that grub2's multiboot replaces grub1's kernel?
Its main use is to load the core.img of
Le 28.06.2014 05:14, slitt a écrit :
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
I'd
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders.
LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a
single easy text file as configuration.
It's what I'm doing, excepted at work for 2
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders.
LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a
single easy text
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:53:41 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
Thanks for the great suggestion. I had originally ruled out LILO
(which I used back in the 20th century) because it can't deal with
EFI boot, as I remember. But (let's all take some time to laugh),
my boot disk is
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote:
The whole reason I'm
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
functional, graphical boots, framebuffer boots, enforced GUI login just
get in the way.
Plymouth
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:42:51 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
functional, graphical boots, framebuffer
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote:
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
There used to be a grub wiki: grub.enbug.org. The link is now dead.
It can however still be found in the webarchive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100819173835/http://grub.enbug.org/FrontPage
The grub manual that I
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders.
LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a
single
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 13:42:51 -0400, Tom H wrote:
Removing splash disables the bootsplash but it doesn't disable
plymouth. With upstart, plymouth is the interface for fscking or
decrypting a partition.
Oh! I've never used
On 06/30/2014 06:24 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 28.06.2014 05:14, slitt a écrit :
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot).
What do they do? Where are they documented?
[I got the tips on usage on the grub mailing list]
I don't know
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 16:06:32 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Thanks for the great suggestion. I had originally ruled out LILO (which
I used back in the 20th century) because it can't deal with EFI boot,
No, but there's a ... I'm
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot).
What do they do? Where are they documented?
[I got
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:40:02 AM UTC+5:30, Tom H wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 14:05:10 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rusi Mody wrote:
I use the grub command configfile (also multiboot).
What do they do? Where are they
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 19:12:14 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:00:01 AM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
Deficiencies in existing documentation don't match up with a claim of
its being almost non-existent. The present documention would be of help
to most users for most things,
On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 11:33:29 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 6/28/14, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 23:14:26 -0400, slitt wrote:
that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined
kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote:
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost
non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-)
Yes, this is one problem. There are others:
- what documentation is existent is not easy to undestand, syntax is
complicated.
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 23:14:26 -0400, slitt wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to
On Friday 27 June 2014 17:34:54 Tom H wrote:
(The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian
users in general and on this list's users in particular...)
Why? What is intrinsically wriong with liking one distro and disliking
another? I have always disliked Ubuntu, and see
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote:
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost
non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-)
Yes, this is one problem. There are others:
20 man pages
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote:
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost
non-existent -- just my survival strategies
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 10:09:28 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote:
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its
On 6/28/14, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 23:14:26 -0400, slitt wrote:
that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined
kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for gosh sakes,
keep it in one file. If a config option is about
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:00:01 AM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 10:09:28 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote:
On Sat 28 Jun 2014 at 09:00:30 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote:
The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away
from both Plymouth and *dm.
I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote:
The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get
away from both Plymouth and *dm.
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 12:34:54 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote:
The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away
from both Plymouth and *dm.
I hadn't heard
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
(The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian
users in general and on this list's users in particular...)
I don't think so. I think the
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
I'd almost say that's one of the things the devs are trying to make it do.
--
Joel Rees
Be careful where you see
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
I'd almost say that's one of the things the
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:50:01 AM UTC+5:30, slitt wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 08:31:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required
lightdm was
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:52:37 +0900
Osamu Aoki osamu_aoki_h...@nifty.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 08:31:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote:
The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away
from both Plymouth and *dm.
I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for the
heads up, Steve! One more reason why I shall avoid *buntu. :-(
Lisi
22.06.2014, 02:31, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required
lightdm was LXDE. I
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, David Dušanić wrote:
22.06.2014, 02:31, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required
lightdm was LXDE. I uninstalled LXDE, installed Xfce, installed
whatever bestows
On 06/21/2014 08:31 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required
lightdm was LXDE. I uninstalled LXDE,
On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:31:50 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
1) Am I correct that Debian's LXDE package installs lightdm?
This is a recommend not a dependency.
2) Does that come from the LXDE project, or is it a Debian thing?
I'd say a Debian thing.
3) Is there a way to
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, B wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:31:50 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
1) Am I correct that Debian's LXDE package installs lightdm?
This is a recommend not a dependency.
2) Does that come from the LXDE project, or is it a Debian thing?
I'd say a
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
Hi all,
I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required
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