Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-30 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/29/22 3:16 PM, Joe wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:36:55 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I do like synaptic also because it saves a history of all the changes that it makes to the system. The apt tools also do this, but in a more user-hostile way. See /var/log/apt/history.log. This ma

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-29 Thread Joe
On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:36:55 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > I do like synaptic also because it saves a history of all the > changes that it makes to the system. > > The apt tools also do this, but in a more user-hostile way. See /var/log/apt/history.log. This may be what Synaptic uses, I'

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-29 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/29/22 10:46 AM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:54:23 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 3/28/22 5:35 PM, Ash Joubert wrote: On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade optio

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:54:23 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 3/28/22 5:35 PM, Ash Joubert wrote: > > On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >> I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted > >> to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I > >

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Ash Joubert
On 29/03/2022 10:54, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: It looks like quite a few packages are currently affected by the recent upgrade of Python to 3.10, including Xen, Samba, and Libre Office. Yes, I currently have these packages held until the transition completes: # apt-mark showhold gvfs-backends li

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 3:04 PM, songbird wrote: ... running unstable there's a few mailing lists i'd follow (release, devel and boot), ctte is also worth it for seeing what issues people are hitting that haven't had an easy answer yet. transition tracker too. Thanks, I will have a look at those plac

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 5:35 PM, Ash Joubert wrote: On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got this: [...]>

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Ash Joubert
On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got this: [...]> The problem is with the section that l

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread songbird
Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: ... > It looks like the cause of the problem is an upgrade to Python 3.10 and > it is also looks like it is already fixed for Xen by the Build Daemon > according to this changelog entry for today's upload of Xen packages to > the main archive: > > xen (4.16.0+51-g0941d6cb

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 10:52 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: The problem is with the section that lists the packages that will be REMOVED. It looks like the upgrade to the python3 packages that remove/replace some existing python3 packages v

Re: OT: Which browser does jwz use? (Was Re: Does this happen often with sid?)

2022-03-28 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-28 19:14 UTC+0200, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 06:16:23PM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: >> I would have been definitely interested which browser [jwz] >> recommends / uses these days. > > Ten years ago it was Safari: > > https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/

OT: Which browser does jwz use? (Was Re: Does this happen often with sid?)

2022-03-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 06:16:23PM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: > I would have been definitely interested which browser [jwz] > recommends / uses these days. Ten years ago it was Safari: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of-firefox/ It seems likely it will st

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-28 17:17 UTC+0200, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Meh - it's been a very long day so far. My mistake - Chuck is not jwz - but > the general warning about Sid still stands That's sad. I would have been definitely interested which browser he recommends / uses these days. -- http://www.

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 05:12:05PM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-28 16:52 UTC+0200, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > [The xscreensaver person, I presume - \o/ ] > > Do you think jwz is a debian user and takes part here with a pseudonym? > :-O Then he could mayb

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-28 16:52 UTC+0200, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > [The xscreensaver person, I presume - \o/ ] Do you think jwz is a debian user and takes part here with a pseudonym? :-O Then he could maybe help with bug #1006199. -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/2022 10:52 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade optio

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade > it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's > equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got this: > > -

Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got this: -- user@debian:~$