Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> >Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Screw that! I'm buying an old Kaypro 2x on Ebay, and using CPM for the
> > > rest of my life!
> > > :-)
> >
> >Good luck finding floppies!
>
> Turns out that is a big problem in maintaining the first generation of
> electronic voting m
Doug wrote:
On 08/06/2014 09:05 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:51:03 -0400
Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
system
On 08/06/2014 09:05 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
Screw that! I'm buying an old Kaypro 2x on Ebay, and using CPM for the
rest of my life!
I have fond memories of my old Kaypro, the Televideos ( had them all,
including the portable and the server), IMSAI and Altos computers and
CP/M. And even MP/M. I
On 08/06/2014 09:05 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:51:03 -0400
Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
systemd, for what r
On Wed 06 Aug 2014 at 11:03:45 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> On 08/05/2014 07:01 PM, AW wrote:
> >And the documentation on the official systemd site is quite terrible,
> >at least so far as I've been able to discover.
>
> They must have copy/pasted the initial systemd documentation from
> the Arch L
Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:51:03 -0400
Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue.
On 08/05/2014 07:01 PM, AW wrote:
And the documentation on the official systemd site is quite terrible,
at least so far as I've been able to discover.
They must have copy/pasted the initial systemd documentation from the
Arch Linux Wiki. When the powers that be over at Arch Linux decided t
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:51:03 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> >
> > LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
> > everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
> > systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue.
>
On Wed 06 Aug 2014 at 00:20:56 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
> I have a basic question: I want to migrate to systemd [reasons below]
[Snip]
> However aptitude dist-upgrade shows me:
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> graphviz{a} rsyslog{a} sysvinit-core{a}
The testing distribution is i
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 00:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
Rusi Mody wrote:
>
> I have a basic question: I want to migrate to systemd [reasons below]
>
> However...
>
> 1. I see on this list itself evidence of breakage
No doubt about that.
>
> 2. Ive experienced some myself and I could only guess that it was
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Erwan David wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:01:57AM CEST, AW
> said:
>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
>> Tom H wrote:
>>>
>>> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
>>
>> Thanks!
>> But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
>> journalctl show auth
>> journalctl
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:17:15 -0700
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Aug 2014, Slavko wrote:
> > > To be precise, i often read about these things: monolitic, binary
> > > files and boot speed. I don't like first two and i am n
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:01 PM, AW wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
>
> Thanks!
> But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
> journalctl show auth
> journalctl show apache2
> journalctl show postgresql
> or even better still
> journal
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:01:57AM CEST, AW
said:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>
> > journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
>
> Thanks!
> But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
> journalctl show auth
> journalctl show apache2
> journalctl show postgresql
> or even better st
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:01:57 -0400
AW wrote:
> But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
This makes the number '4' meaningful...
...
SyslogFacility=
Sets the syslog facility to use when logging to syslog. One of
kern, user, mail, daemon, auth, syslog, lpr, news, uucp, cron,
authpriv, ft
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:57:02 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
Thanks!
But why '4'? Why not '42'? Or even better...
journalctl show auth
journalctl show apache2
journalctl show postgresql
or even better still
journalctl show -v postgresql
and I found the '-o verbose' option to
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, AW wrote:
>
> cat /var/log/auth.log
> or
> journalctl 'something unknown by me'
journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=4
There's tab completion, so on my laptop where I've aliased systemctl
and journalctl to sc and jc (and duplicated the systemctl and
journalctl bash completi
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> LOL, perhaps I'll boot to bin/bash, and then run a script to do
> everything else. Oh wait, I can't do that: I hear PAM now depends on
> systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue.
Maybe you should look into adapting the Android Init Language :
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:44:50 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
>I hear PAM now depends on
>systemd, for what reason I haven't a clue.
I'd bet last Tuesday's burrito special that you could compile and
install a version of PAM without systemd...
However, it's not all surprising that PAM pulls in a systemd
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:05:59 -0400
AW wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:32:48 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >When I switch to systemd, I'd like to have it as isolated as humanly
> >possible, just because I'm a modularity kind of guy.
>
> I've been watching the thread here... and I understand the
On Tue 05 Aug 2014 at 12:32:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Cool! Finally someone who knows it and is on the ground floor. I have
> some questions...
Debian isn't a department store. But if it were you want the penthouse,
which is where the the systemd maintainers reside.
> When I switch to system
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
> Cool! Finally someone who knows it and is on the ground floor. I have
> some questions...
>
> When I switch to systemd, I'd like to have it as isolated as humanly
> possible, just because I'm a modularity kind of guy.
>
> I'm thinking of starting the mini
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:32:48 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
>When I switch to systemd, I'd like to have it as isolated as humanly
>possible, just because I'm a modularity kind of guy.
I've been watching the thread here... and I understand the thought of
not changing from sysvinit because sysvinit work
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:17:15 -0700
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2014, Slavko wrote:
> > To be precise, i often read about these things: monolitic, binary
> > files and boot speed. I don't like first two and i am not interested
> > in latest.
>
> These are just accessible reasons. The mai
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