Re: Etch status..?

2006-12-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Steef and *, Am 2006-12-06 20:03:12, schrieb steef: > thanks michelle. your answer makes things much clearer. i understand > your remarks better now. The problem is: HOW can I install Debian ON SUCH MACHINES in the future? The machines are 333 to 450 MHz and I can not say, they a

Re: Etch status..?

2006-12-06 Thread steef
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-11-26 11:45:02, schrieb steef: i do not understand. what is the problem?? quote: *SMP images merged with non-SMP*. After the release of linux-image-2.6.17-2 the SMP and non-smp images where integrated into ^^^

Re: Etch status..?

2006-12-02 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:50:58AM -0500, cga2000 wrote: Sounds like I'll have to start over and stick to one or the other. No, just start using aptitude, stop using apt-get, and go manually through the list of packages from within aptitude, determine if they'

Re: Etch status..?

2006-12-01 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:50:58AM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > > Sounds like I'll have to start over and stick to one or the other. > > > > > > No, just start using aptitude, stop using apt-get, and go manually > > > through the list of packages from within aptitude, determine if they're > > > one

Re: Etch status..?

2006-12-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-26 11:45:02, schrieb steef: > i do not understand. what is the problem?? > > quote: > >*SMP images merged with non-SMP*. After the release of > >linux-image-2.6.17-2 the SMP and non-smp images where integrated into ^^^ ^^

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-30 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:37:34PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:21:25PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:50:24PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:13:56P

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-30 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:21:25PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:50:24PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:13:56PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:36:39PM EST, D

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-30 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:21:25PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:50:24PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:13:56PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:36:39PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > [..] > > I did the etch upgrade following t

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-30 Thread cga2000
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:50:24PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:13:56PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:36:39PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: [..] > > I normally use apt-get or command-line aptitude. > > Part of your difficulty could be using two differ

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-27 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:13:56PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:36:39PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > Everything went well until I tried to boot the 2.6.17 kernel. > > > > Do I read this right?: You're OK running Etch with kernel 2.6.8 and the > > problem is booting to 2.6

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-27 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:36:39PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > Hi Cga, > > I've put my comments inline to make things clearer (I hope). > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:39:38PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: [..] > > Everything went well until I tried to boot the 2.6.17 kernel. > > Do I read this right?:

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-26 Thread Mark Grieveson
As you implied I took it one step at a time, making sure I still had connectivity after each one of them: 1. Did a minimal Sarge install 2. Installed the 2.6.8 kernel alongside the "native" 2.4.27 3. Upgraded to testing/etch via a dist-upgrade 4. Installed the etch 2.6.17 kernel alongside his tw

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-26 Thread Douglas Tutty
Hi Cga, I've put my comments inline to make things clearer (I hope). On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:39:38PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 12:10:25AM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 10:15:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > So it looks like I'm stuck with a 2.4 ker

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-26 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 12:10:25AM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 10:15:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: [..] > > So it looks like I'm stuck with a 2.4 kernel for the lifetime of this > > laptop. > > > > What card is not recognized? I would suggest tackling that as a > specific

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-26 Thread steef
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-11-23 22:15:01, schrieb cga2000: I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially came with the sarge netinst and sure enough my PC card is no longer recognized. So it looks like I'm stuck with a 2.4 kernel for the lifetime of this laptop.

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-23 22:15:01, schrieb cga2000: > I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially > came with the sarge netinst and sure enough my PC card is no longer > recognized. > > So it looks like I'm stuck with a 2.4 kernel for the lifetime of this > laptop. You can install o

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-23 Thread Alan Ianson
On Thu, 2006-23-11 at 22:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 11:56:50PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: > > [..] > > > > > It's upto you if you want a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel.. :) > > Well not really... > > :-( > > I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially > came w

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-23 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 10:15:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 11:56:50PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: > > [..] > > > > > It's upto you if you want a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel.. :) > > Well not really... > > :-( > > I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially >

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-23 Thread cga2000
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 11:56:50PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: [..] > > > It's upto you if you want a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel.. :) Well not really... :-( I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially came with the sarge netinst and sure enough my PC card is no longer recognized.

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:07:58 -0500 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:30:00PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: > > On Tue November 21 2006 13:47, cga2000 wrote: > > [..] > > > > I did notice that I'm still running the sarge 2.4.27 kernel > > > instead of the 2.6.17 that's in

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-21 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue November 21 2006 19:07, cga2000 wrote: > > > I did notice that I'm still running the sarge 2.4.27 kernel instead of > > > the 2.6.17 that's in the etch repository.. > > > > > > Is this "normal" .. or did my dist-upgrade run into a problem and > > > decide not to upgrade to a more recent ker

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-21 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:07:58PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:30:00PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: > > On Tue November 21 2006 13:47, cga2000 wrote: > So you are telling me that "apt-get/aptitude dist-upgrade" do not > upgrade the kernel .. IOW that what I have experienced is "

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-21 Thread cga2000
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:30:00PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote: > On Tue November 21 2006 13:47, cga2000 wrote: [..] > > I did notice that I'm still running the sarge 2.4.27 kernel instead of > > the 2.6.17 that's in the etch repository.. > > > > Is this "normal" .. or did my dist-upgrade run into a p

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-17 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:03:40PM EST, Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 07:38:09PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 12:27:23PM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > > Good point. Last time I tried was 8 months ago and I would rather do > > an etch install than a sar

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-17 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 07:38:09PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 12:27:23PM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Good point. Last time I tried was 8 months ago and I would rather do > an etch install than a sarge+upgrade. So I'll give it another shot. > > > I guess you have a fa

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-17 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 12:27:23PM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [..] > > How do you come to the conclusion that the stable etch installer > wouldn't work better with that laptop? bug #352758 is still marked as "outstanding" .. > If any linux works with your nic, so should debian etch and i

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-17 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
cga2000 wrote: > I have heard rumors that etch will soon become stable. > > Would any one know when this is likely to happen? Current schedule is end of this year. [1] > Or is it already "frozen" and I could start my reinstall this coming > week-end without having to do it all over again when i

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-17 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 01:01:35AM EST, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:22:47PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: [..] > > I have heard rumors that etch will soon become stable. > > > > Would any one know when this is likely to happen? > > > > Or is it already "frozen" and I could start my

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:22:47PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. > > Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide > major headaches: > > 1. Install sarge on a new partition > 2. Wait till etch become stable. > 3. Do a

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:25:14PM EST, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:22:47PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. > > > > Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide > > major headaches: > > > > 1.

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:51:44PM EST, Greg Madden wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:22:47 -0500 > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. > > > > Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide > > major headaches:

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread Greg Madden
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:22:47 -0500 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. > > Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide > major headaches: > > 1. Install sarge on a new partition > 2. Wait till etch become stab

Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:22:47PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. > > Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide > major headaches: > > 1. Install sarge on a new partition > 2. Wait till etch become stable. > 3. Do a

Etch status..?

2006-11-16 Thread cga2000
I need to upgrade my current sarge to something more current. Is this the recommended procedure -- the one less likely to provide major headaches: 1. Install sarge on a new partition 2. Wait till etch become stable. 3. Do a blind upgrade. 4. Customize. I need to re-install sarge because I have