Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Andre
Hi there I recently moved to Lenny from Etch via dist-upgrade. Now I got two kernel options in grub available for boot. Doesn't a dist-upgrade mean that the old kernel is quite useless with the new system (with all its new libraries and stuff)? If so, how do I get rid off Etch's leftovers?

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Javier Barroso
If the lastest kernel hangs, you could probe with the previous kernel I think this is the reason On Jan 16, 2008 11:02 AM, Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I recently moved to Lenny from Etch via dist-upgrade. Now I got two kernel options in grub available for boot. Doesn't a

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Quoth Andre: Hi there I recently moved to Lenny from Etch via dist-upgrade. Now I got two kernel options in grub available for boot. Doesn't a dist-upgrade mean that the old kernel is quite useless with the new system (with all its new libraries and stuff)? If so, how do I get rid off

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 16 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: No, the Kernel doesn't depend on those libraries. Evenything you need to boot a machine is in /boot and /lib/modules/`uname -r`. From then on, any init-process may get called, which will most likely depend on _a lot_ of libs, but that's

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Quoth Paul Cartwright: I have a question about this, please. I have an NVIDIA card, and after some updates I get the black screen of death, and I have to change my video driver to nv and restart X. If I reboot into an older kernel, will my nvidia driver work? It never fails, I need to use

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 16 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: I have a question about this, please. I have an NVIDIA card, and after some updates I get the black screen of death, and I have to change my video driver to nv and restart X. If I reboot into an older kernel, will my nvidia driver work?

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 16, 2008 9:20 AM, Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can I reboot into the older kernel and will the nvidia driver work? Absolutely. I ran into a similar issue where I installed a new kernel without building ndiswrapper for it. I had uninstalled the module source package, so

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:39:51PM +0100, ??. wrote: Quoth Andre: I recently moved to Lenny from Etch via dist-upgrade. Now I got two kernel options in grub available for boot. Doesn't a dist-upgrade mean that the old kernel is quite useless with

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Quoth Douglas A. Tutty: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:39:51PM +0100, ??. wrote: No, the Kernel doesn't depend on those libraries. Evenything you need to boot a machine is in /boot and /lib/modules/`uname -r`. From then on, any init-process may get

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Andre
Ahhh, good thing to know. I think the problem was that with dist-upgrade all those new packages came along, and I was subconsciously thinking they were installed due to dependencies on the new kernel and thus wouldn't work with the old kernel. But apparently there are some packages (some of

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Having mulitple entries in grub isn't really much of a distraction. And the kernel images don't eat a lot of memory, too. Mine is currently 1.8 MiB, /lib/modules is 12 Mib, but that's only because nvidia's such a fat-ass hog. Otherwise it would be a bout 3 MiB.

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Quoth Eduardo M KALINOWSKI: Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Having mulitple entries in grub isn't really much of a distraction. And the kernel images don't eat a lot of memory, too. Mine is currently 1.8 MiB, /lib/modules is 12 Mib, but that's only because nvidia's such a fat-ass hog. Otherwise

Re: Etch to Lenny, two kernel options now, why?

2008-01-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 06:10:34PM +0100, ??. wrote: Quoth Douglas A. Tutty: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:39:51PM +0100, ??. wrote: There's and advantage to having some kind of static-linked shell (at least).