Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-18 Thread Renato Gallo
What's the use of a PDA in the smartphones era ? Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Brian" To: "debian-user" Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:56:12 PM Subject: Re: FOSS friendly PDA? On Mon 17 Feb 2020 at 09:27:19 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-18 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Feb 2020 at 09:27:19 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/17/2020 09:01 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > There were two "pure Linux" PDAs that I fully enjoyed using.  [1] Agenda > > VR3.  It was a joy to use, but had a few downsides:  Batteries went down > > fast.  Even though the PDA was p

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2020 09:01 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: There were two "pure Linux" PDAs that I fully enjoyed using.  [1] Agenda VR3.  It was a joy to use, but had a few downsides:  Batteries went down fast.  Even though the PDA was pure Linux, it didn't support Linux on your PC.  Screen was "iffy". And

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-17 Thread Kenneth Parker
There were two "pure Linux" PDAs that I fully enjoyed using. [1] Agenda VR3. It was a joy to use, but had a few downsides: Batteries went down fast. Even though the PDA was pure Linux, it didn't support Linux on your PC. Screen was "iffy". And their Marketing wasn't good enough, for them to st

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-17 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 11 Feb 2020 at 23:23, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > My impression is that a lot of these machines although theoretically > able to run linux don't have sufficient developers able to work on > them for all the wrinkles to be fixed. That is, other OSes may be > bootable but it's strictly "ent

Re: Revised description of a FOSS friendly PDA

2020-02-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/15/2020 08:44 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Feb 13, 2020, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/11/2020 10:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of the old Palm Pilots in

Re: Revised description of a FOSS friendly PDA

2020-02-15 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 13, 2020, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/11/2020 10:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be >> transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one >> of the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] >>

Re: Revised description of a FOSS friendly PDA

2020-02-13 Thread David Wright
On Thu 13 Feb 2020 at 06:52:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/11/2020 10:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will > > then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the > > capability of one of the old Palm Pilots in a smartph

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/13/2020 05:28 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: It's unclear on https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/popular-items/products/gemini-pda-1 If it currently ships to US (although another page lists price in US dollars). I raise the question as https://shop.jolla.com/ explicit

Revised description of a FOSS friendly PDA

2020-02-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/11/2020 10:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] "Palm Pilot" was the not best visualization. A

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-13 Thread deloptes
Richard Owlett wrote: > It's unclear on > https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/popular-items/products/gemini-pda-1 > > If it currently ships to US (although another page lists price in US > dollars). > I raise the question as https://shop.jolla.com/ explicitly states: > >> Sailfish X is cur

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 feb 20, 09:29:03, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32:57 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > > > The PinePhone has 6 physical killswitches: > > > > Modem: On enables 2G/3G/4G communication and GNSS hardware, > > off disables. > > Presumably this is what they refer to as the

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020, at 17:46, Richard Owlett wrote: > The Planetcom site states that Debian can be installed. All my systems > are Debian. > > I'll have to get back to the sites this evening. What the Planet website states is, I think, their original intention. My impression is that they prov

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/12/2020 10:36 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: It must use a standard Linux (Debian preferred). The manufacturer should ship with the Linux installed. Android is *UNACCEPTABLE*! It should NOT have cell connectivity. If it has WiFi, I must be able to disable it. Look at Sailfish

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2020-02-12 at 12:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2020 11:09:46 Tixy wrote: > > > > EG? 25G? Those don't make sense to me in the context of > > > cellphones. > > > > Perhaps 'EDGE' a.k.a. 2.5G? > > That would be subject to lots of interference from microwave ovens

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 11:09:46 Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2020-02-12 at 10:53 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32:57 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > > I presume that the ability to make calls is covered by the item

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread deloptes
Richard Owlett wrote: > It must use a standard Linux (Debian preferred). > The manufacturer should ship with the Linux installed. > Android is *UNACCEPTABLE*! > It should NOT have cell connectivity. > If it has WiFi, I must be able to disable it. Look at Sailfish OS and community ports. Recently

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2020-02-12 at 10:53 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32:57 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > > > David Wright wrote: > > I presume that the ability to make calls is covered by the item > > "Quectel EG-25G with worldwide bands" (by a process of > > eli

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32:57 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > I presume that the ability to make calls is covered by the item > "Quectel EG-25G with worldwide bands" (by a process of elimination). > I think my GalaxyY is "quad-band", which allegedly cov

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 17:32:57 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > It might still track you when you omit the SIM card. > > You might be able to disconnect the aerial if you open it up. > > Ah, you didn't read it either. I read the panel at the right, but didn't click through to

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 11 Feb 2020, at 16:09, Richard Owlett wrote: > I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be > transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one > of the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] You might want to skim through the dis

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > It might still track you when you omit the SIM card. > You might be able to disconnect the aerial if you open it up. Ah, you didn't read it either. The PinePhone has 6 physical killswitches: Modem: On enables 2G/3G/4G communication and GNSS hardware, off disables.

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Feb 2020 at 14:00:51 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/11/2020 10:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be > > > transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of > > > the

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/11/2020 02:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2020 15:00:51 Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/11/2020 10:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the ca

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 15:00:51 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/11/2020 10:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then > >> be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability > >> of one of the old P

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/11/2020 10:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] It must use a standard Linux (De

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: > I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be > transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of > the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] > > It must use a standard Linux (Debian preferred). > The manufacture

FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-11 Thread Richard Owlett
I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [Think the capability of one of the old Palm Pilots in a smartphone(sic) form factor] It must use a standard Linux (Debian preferred). The manufacturer should ship with the Linux ins