Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Jochen Schulz
Michael Pobega: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:39:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Is ssmtp a daemon? Maybe you need to restart it. Have you tried looking in /var/log/mail.log? There doesn't seem to be a daemon for it. I *think* fetchmail can use any sendmail-compatible binary

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Michael Pobega
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:32:56AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Michael Pobega: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:39:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Is ssmtp a daemon? Maybe you need to restart it. Have you tried looking in /var/log/mail.log? There doesn't seem to be a daemon for it. I

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:37:23AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:32:56AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Well the last thing I need is to get procmail working, if I can't I may end up just abandoning Debian altogether (I'm not threatening it, but it's just really

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/07 10:23, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] my setup uses fetchmail, exim4 and procmail. this is my understanding. pop3 server \/ fetchmail \/ exim4 \/ mail spool \/ exim4 \/ procmail \/ ~/Maildir's Why

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Marc Shapiro
Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:39:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 18:33, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Jochen Schulz
Michael Pobega: Well the last thing I need is to get procmail working, if I can't I may end up just abandoning Debian altogether (I'm not threatening it, but it's just really annoying, and I NEED procmail, it's not even a nice thing to use, I NEED it). /me too. I really don't get why

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Michael Pobega
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 03:26:40PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Michael Pobega: Well the last thing I need is to get procmail working, if I can't I may end up just abandoning Debian altogether (I'm not threatening it, but it's just really annoying, and I NEED procmail, it's not even a

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:11:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/07 10:23, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] my setup uses fetchmail, exim4 and procmail. this is my understanding. pop3 server \/ fetchmail \/ exim4 \/ mail spool

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/07 13:51, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:11:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/07 10:23, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] my setup uses fetchmail, exim4 and procmail. this is my

Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say: == 9 messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] at pop.gmail.com (36283 octets). reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@gmail-pop.l.google.com:1 of 9 (2984 octets).. fetchmail:

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:26:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say: == 9 messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] at pop.gmail.com (36283 octets). reading message

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 17:26, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say: == 9 messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] at pop.gmail.com (36283

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:26:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say: == 9 messages

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 17:26, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say: ==

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Jeff D
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:26:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it does it say:

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 18:33, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 17:26, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:39:30PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:26:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having trouble fetching my mail with fetchmail. All it

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:39:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 18:33, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 17:26, Michael

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Jeff D
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:39:30PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:26:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm having

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:55:24PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:39:30PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007

Re: Fetchmail Problems

2007-04-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 18:55, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:39:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Ah, right. Sorry. Is ssmtp a daemon? Maybe you need to restart it. Have you tried looking in /var/log/mail.log? There doesn't seem

RE: Fetchmail problems

2006-01-17 Thread David Baron
Latest versions from Sid seem broken: 1. pid files are not created 2. EHLO syntax errors so connections not made, fail not fetched Any information on this? Fix? Latest upgrade, 3rd in as many days, no better. The 2nd problem may be due to exim4 which is the smtp server. This was also recently

Fetchmail problems

2006-01-16 Thread David Baron
Latest versions from Sid seem broken: 1. pid files are not created 2. EHLO syntax errors so connections not made, fail not fetched Any information on this? Fix? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fetchmail problems

2006-01-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:50 +0200, David Baron wrote: Latest versions from Sid seem broken: Since you didn't mention exactly which version that it, I'm guessing it's v6.3.1-4? (I upgraded on Friday, and it still has version 6.2.5.4-1. 1. pid files are not created 2. EHLO syntax errors so

fetchmail problems

2002-01-29 Thread Thedore Knab
I am perplexed here. Pop seems to be working. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fetchmail -c Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fetchmail: 5.9.6 querying pop.washcoll.edu (protocol POP3) at Tue Jan 29 01:21:08 2002: poll started fetchmail: POP3 +OK BlitzMail POP3 Server Ready. fetchmail: POP3 USER

Re: fetchmail problems

2002-01-29 Thread Jeff
Thedore Knab, 2002-Jan-29 01:26 -0500: Any ideas ? .fetmailrc set no bouncemail poll pop.washcoll.edu with proto pop3 user 'ted.knab' there is 'ted' here Try designating an 'mda' on your local machine for fetchmail to hand off the email to. add to the .fetchmailrc: mda

Fetchmail Problems with Retrieving Mail

2002-01-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
Hi all- Well fetchmail seems to be acting up on me here. I'm running 5.9.6-2, and haven't figured out how to run it as a system wide daemon yet, so I'm still doing the fetchmail -d 300 when I log in. Anyway, for some reason it stopped retrieving mail. I killed the process and tried running it

Re: Fetchmail Problems with Retrieving Mail

2002-01-13 Thread Brian Nelson
Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all- Well fetchmail seems to be acting up on me here. I'm running 5.9.6-2, and haven't figured out how to run it as a system wide daemon yet, Setup a system-wide /etc/fetchmailrc file. See the stuff at the top of /etc/init.d/fetchmail. so I'm

Re: Fetchmail Problems with Retrieving Mail

2002-01-13 Thread Dmitriy
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 10:11:35PM -0800, Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi all- Well fetchmail seems to be acting up on me here. I'm running 5.9.6-2, and haven't figured out how to run it as a system wide daemon yet, so I'm still doing the fetchmail -d 300 when I log in. Anyway, for some reason it

Re: Fetchmail Problems with Retrieving Mail

2002-01-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 01/13/02 00:38:08 -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: Setup a system-wide /etc/fetchmailrc file. See the stuff at the top of /etc/init.d/fetchmail. I saw the instructions there and placed a system-wide config file under /etc, but it didn't look like it was working. There was no feedback when I

Re: Fetchmail Problems with Retrieving Mail

2002-01-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 01/13/02 01:07:05 -0800, Dmitriy wrote: On a retreival of a certain message server drops connection. You have to go into webmail account (which may be inaccesible for around 10 mins or so after attempt), and move all messages to a different folder. Then go through all of them until u see

Re: [LIH] Re: Fetchmail problems

2001-11-28 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
[Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:03:03AM +0530] Sridhar M.A. : should I file a bug report ? How do I go about it ? This bug might have already been reported. There is this nifty utility based on Python called as 'reportbug'. It does what it says and helps you find out whether the 'bug' has

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread hzi
Hi - I had to repost this via mailing-list, since I found out that when you post via news, it doesn't get in the mailing list. That is, news is only a sort of back up. Sorry. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- I've been having prblems with

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:28:54AM -0300): Can you guide me in writing /etc/hosts in order to enable SMTP? assuming your hostname is quelquechose, make the first line in your /etc/hosts file read 127.0.0.1 localhost quelquechose martin; (greetings

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread Joost Kooij
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:28:54AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having prblems with fetchmail, getting a SMTP connect failed message. Since I read in the fetchmail FAQ that the problem could be that my SMTP port listener is down or inaccessible. Try: telnet 127.0.0.1 25 or

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Joost Kooij (on Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:25:30PM +0200): telnet 127.0.0.1 25 or telnet localhost smtp or netstat -lAinet | grep smtp which is better since it gives a more certain answer whether the smtp port is bound to, or not. also, telnet is a protocol, and *if* you test

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:10:24PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: | also sprach Joost Kooij (on Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:25:30PM +0200): |telnet 127.0.0.1 25 | | or | |telnet localhost smtp | | or | | netstat -lAinet | grep smtp | | which is better since it gives a more certain answer

Re: How do you edit the /etc/hosts with the smtp information - fetchmail problems

2001-07-19 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach D-Man (on Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:06:17PM -0400): telnet provides console access to a port. Sure, telnet is a protocol, but the telnet protocol just negotiates terminal capabilities. If you're not connecting to telnetd you get no capabilities aside from sending a character and

Re: fetchmail problems

2000-08-29 Thread Phillip Deackes
Matthew Sackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to know of the details in the .fetchmailrc file of anyone who is successfully selecting emails for themselves that are part of a mailing list (or any other information that could help!). OK Matthew - I subscribe to a number of mailing

fetchmail problems

2000-08-28 Thread Matthew Sackman
Hay all again! I have a POP3 mail box, into which goes all the mail for the domain sackman.co.uk. Emails that are for me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I want to download using fetchmail (the mail box is being used as a multi-drop mailbox). The problem is that using fetchmail's envelope Received option does

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-26 Thread Russ Pitman
I have that problem on a fairly regular basis. My workaround is to read the mailbox on the server from netscape and delete all mail with unidentified sender in the address. These are always empty. I asked on the fetchmail-friends list if it is possible to tell fetchmail to disregard

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Russ Pitman wrote: I have that problem on a fairly regular basis. My workaround is to read the mailbox on the server from netscape and delete all mail with unidentified sender in the address. These are always empty. I asked on the fetchmail-friends list if it is possible to tell

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-26 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:34:41AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Unfortunately, there isn't a fetchpop package anymore. I wonder when it was removed from the distribution. Well, here's a strange thing. Not only is fetchpop gone, you can't even find it in the ML archive. A Google search

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-26 Thread Russ Pitman
Hmm-- Thanks, I will put fetchpop on the system and check it out next time fetchmail falls over. If it works, maybe do some stirring :-)) On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:34:41AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Russ Pitman wrote: I have that problem on a fairly regular basis. My workaround is

painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-25 Thread Paul Phillips
Under debian frozen, kernel 2.2.15. Somewhere around a week ago, fetchmail started hanging on me. After fairly thorough investigation I'm still not sure just what changed to cause this, or even whether it's client side or server; though, I think it's something on the server, because I didn't

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-25 Thread Jim Ray
I would delete that message manually and see if the problem goes away. I have seen certain messages cause this problem but I have never figured out why this happens. jim ray On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:53:20PM +, Paul Phillips wrote: Under debian frozen, kernel 2.2.15. Somewhere around

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-25 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 02:25:33PM -0700, Jim Ray wrote: I would delete that message manually and see if the problem goes away. I have seen certain messages cause this problem but I have never figured out why this happens. jim ray On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:53:20PM +, Paul Phillips

Re: painful mail/fetchmail problems

2000-07-25 Thread Martin J . Hillyer
will get a very verbose output of the negotiation between your machine and the server. It has helped me a couple of times to work out fetchmail problems (and -v -v will give you even more, though I've never had occasion to use this option). Try man fetchmail... HTH HAND -- Martin Hillyer

fw: Fetchmail problems

1999-07-15 Thread Gary Richard van Blerk
Does this mean that fetchmail is incapable of doing this type of thing automatically? As far as I can see, fetchmail will connect to the server and forward the mail to your server on port 25. If this is the case, why can't it keep the original to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and forward it user xxx. My

Re: fw: Fetchmail problems

1999-07-15 Thread Patrick Kirk
Try this for a solution: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue43/stumpel.html On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:22:28AM +0200, Gary Richard van Blerk wrote: Does this mean that fetchmail is incapable of doing this type of thing automatically? As far as I can see, fetchmail will connect to the server and

Re: fw: Fetchmail problems

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Merten
On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:22:28AM +0200, Gary Richard van Blerk wrote: Does this mean that fetchmail is incapable of doing this type of thing automatically? As far as I can see, fetchmail will connect to the server and forward the mail to your server on port 25. If this is the case, why can't

Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 24 May, Lazarus Long wrote about List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems On Thursday, May 20, 1999 at 11:17:01 -0500, Matt Garman wrote: Subject: Re: fetchmail problems Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 685403a47c42011da0baee50b375ebfe Also, I read through

Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread Lazarus Long
On Monday, May 24, 1999 at 17:07:37 -0500, Brian Servis wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 750f5ce8b238693f85cd478f9c87c1f0 How did you search the archives? Do you have a working URL for this handy? I just filed a bug against www.debian.org since the link from there

Re: List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-25 Thread John
Lazarus Long wrote: On Monday, May 24, 1999 at 17:07:37 -0500, Brian Servis wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 750f5ce8b238693f85cd478f9c87c1f0 How did you search the archives? Do you have a working URL for this handy? I just filed a bug against www.debian.org since

Re: Fetchmail problems

1999-05-24 Thread Peter Ludwig
On Sat, 22 May 1999, XRDLAB wrote: Hi, I upgraded my hamm system to slink. Everything went well. The old configurations generated by ppconfig run equally well under the new system also. But I am having some trouble with regard to getting the mail from my isp. This has happened after upgrading

List archives? was: Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-24 Thread Lazarus Long
On Thursday, May 20, 1999 at 11:17:01 -0500, Matt Garman wrote: Subject: Re: fetchmail problems Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 685403a47c42011da0baee50b375ebfe Also, I read through the fetchmail FAQ, and searched the debian-user list archives. How did you search the archives

Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-24 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: fetchmail problems Date: Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:17:01AM -0500 In reply to:Matt Garman Quoting Matt Garman([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:10:03AM -0500, Marc Mongeon wrote: Make sure you have a line like this in your /etc/exim.conf

RE: Fetchmail problems

1999-05-23 Thread David Karlin
Hello, I have a fairly fresh slink system, and I get the same fetchmail error msgs. --David -Original Message- From: XRDLAB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 1999 5:19 AM To: Debian Users Subject: Fetchmail problems Hi, I upgraded my hamm system to slink

Re: fetchmail problems

1999-05-23 Thread Matt Garman
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:10:03AM -0500, Marc Mongeon wrote: Make sure you have a line like this in your /etc/exim.conf: local_domains = localhost Yup, I have that in my /etc/exim.conf And one like this in your /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost Mine actually looks like the

Fetchmail problems

1999-05-22 Thread XRDLAB
Hi, I upgraded my hamm system to slink. Everything went well. The old configurations generated by ppconfig run equally well under the new system also. But I am having some trouble with regard to getting the mail from my isp. This has happened after upgrading to slink. When I do a fetchmail, I get

fetchmail problems

1999-05-20 Thread Matt Garman
Hello: I've had fetchmail working beautifully for a while now. Out of nowhwere, having done nothing to my system, fetchmail suddenly is broken! Here is my ~/.fetchmailrc poll students.uiuc.edu proto imap user username pass password no flush fetchall smtp localhost And when I try to execute

RE: fetchmail problems

1999-05-20 Thread Pollywog
On 20-May-99 Matt Garman wrote: Also -- I'm running Exim, and have been for quite a while. I did a little snooping on DejaNews, and folks usually say that sendmail needs to be running... I don't have a sendmail process, but does exim create one anyway? I am not running Sendmail, just Exim

qmail + mutt + fetchmail problems

1999-03-16 Thread Ian Keith Setford
Well I decided to install qmail upon suggestions from various people. I got the package source and compiled the .debs fine. Then, upon reading the docs, I found out that the Maildir format is preferred. So I set out to get that working in Pine. No go. I search the UW pages for info and see

Sendmail/fetchmail problems?

1998-03-08 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
Is this familiar to anyone? reading message 116 of 204 (2361 bytes) .popclient: SMTP error: 451 Can't create transcript file xfWAA00603: Too many open files in system popclient: SMTP error: 451 Can't open /dev/null: Too many open files in system popclient: SMTP transaction error while fetching

Re: Sendmail/fetchmail problems?

1998-03-08 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, George Bonser wrote: Yeah, this is a problem with the kernel. It does not allow enough open files for a server that is busy. hmmm, i only noticed this since i upgraded from sendmail 8.8.8-X to the 8.8.8-9. I didnt think my system would be classified as busy... a pentium