Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 04:43:12PM +0100, piorunz wrote: Of course, 404 error on https version of the website it a great piece of content. Admins are doing great job. On the root page, sure. Who knows if they're actively serving content on a sub-path. Anyway, it's easy to throw mud. It

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:32:03AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Kenneth Parker wrote: I use lighttpd for eyeblinkuniverse.com, with nano as my editor. I don't quite understand the Certificates required for https. I guess it is time for some lessons. The easiest thing to do here is to install

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-16 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-04-16 at 13:08 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 16/04/21 1:32 am, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Last step: create a cron job to run once a week that does > > this: > > > > certbot renew && \ > > cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/eyeblinkuniverse.com/privkey.pem \ > >

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Richard Hector
On 16/04/21 1:32 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Last step: create a cron job to run once a week that does this: certbot renew && \ cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/eyeblinkuniverse.com/privkey.pem \ /etc/letsencrypt/live/eyeblinkuniverse.com/cert.pem > \ /etc/letsencrypt/live/eyeblinkuniverse/merged.pem && \

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/04/2021 15:49, Erwan David wrote: If webadmin FORGETS to implement https in 2021, then he deserves losing his job. 勞 But nothing says that http:// and https:// must have same content. Of course, 404 error on https version of the website it a great piece of content. Admins are doing

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 09:31:11 -0300 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > On 15/04/2021 09:12, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:16:59 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > > >> On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.daat.ac.il/ > >>> https://www.daat.ac.il/ > >>> > >>> Celejar > >

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Erwan David
Le 15/04/2021 à 16:16, piorunz a écrit : On 15/04/2021 13:40, mett wrote: So, indeed, some misconfiguration it seems. Maybe they simply forget to redirect http to https. Though I agree no need to shun them. HTH If webadmin FORGETS to implement https in 2021, then he deserves losing his

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 9:32 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > I use lighttpd for eyeblinkuniverse.com, with nano as my editor. I don't > > quite understand the Certificates required for https. I guess it is time > > for some lessons. > > The easiest thing to do here is to

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/04/2021 13:40, mett wrote: So, indeed, some misconfiguration it seems. Maybe they simply forget to redirect http to https. Though I agree no need to shun them. HTH If webadmin FORGETS to implement https in 2021, then he deserves losing his job. 勞 -- With kindest regards, piorunz.

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I use lighttpd for eyeblinkuniverse.com, with nano as my editor. I don't > quite understand the Certificates required for https. I guess it is time > for some lessons. The easiest thing to do here is to install certbot. Assuming that your web root is /var/www and your

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread mett
2021-04-15 21:12 に Celejar さんは書きました: On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:16:59 +0100 piorunz wrote: On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: >> It certainly works fine for me. I use https only mode for many months >> now. Can you bring an example of a page which returns good page on http, >> but 404 error on

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 01:31:45PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:44:21AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: If they don't support https, they shouldn't respond at all. Perhaps they do, but not for the hostname being used here to access the web server. Although looking at

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:44:21AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: If they don't support https, they shouldn't respond at all. Perhaps they do, but not for the hostname being used here to access the web server. -- Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.  Jonathan Dowland ✎

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 15/04/2021 09:12, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:16:59 +0100 piorunz wrote: On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: http://www.daat.ac.il/ https://www.daat.ac.il/ Celejar I can confirm the problem, by the way. Their webserver is misconfigured. AFAIR, if they don't support

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:16:59 +0100 piorunz wrote: > On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: > > >> It certainly works fine for me. I use https only mode for many months > >> now. Can you bring an example of a page which returns good page on http, > >> but 404 error on https? > > > >

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:16:59AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > TLS 2.0/3.0 only Nitpick: TLS 1.2 and 1.3.

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 15/04/2021 11:16, piorunz wrote: > On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: > >>> It certainly works fine for me. I use https only mode for many months >>> now. Can you bring an example of a page which returns good page on >>> http, >>> but 404 error on https? >> >> http://www.daat.ac.il/ >>

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/04/2021 03:15, Celejar wrote: It certainly works fine for me. I use https only mode for many months now. Can you bring an example of a page which returns good page on http, but 404 error on https? http://www.daat.ac.il/ https://www.daat.ac.il/ Celejar Their webserver is

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 11:57 PM Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Kenneth Parker writes: > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:16 PM Celejar wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:57:01 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > > > > On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I recently switched

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Kenneth Parker writes: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:16 PM Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:57:01 +0100 > piorunz wrote: > > > On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the > > > HTTPS Everywhere

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:16 PM Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:57:01 +0100 > piorunz wrote: > > > On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the > > > HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:01:13 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: > On 4/14/21, Celejar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the > > HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that > > a bunch of links that had been returning 404,

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:57:01 +0100 piorunz wrote: > On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the > > HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that > > a bunch of links that had been returning 404,

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Nito
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 16:01:13 -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > > Not sure if useful at all, but I've been using firefox-release (just running > the binary from Mozilla) as main browser for years, and enabled HTTPS- > Only Mode upon HTTPS Everywhere add-on/extension simply because > I had it

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread piorunz
On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote: Hi, I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that a bunch of links that had been returning 404, which I had been assuming were dead links, were actually perfectly valid

Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/14/21, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the > HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that > a bunch of links that had been returning 404, which I had been assuming > were dead links, were actually perfectly

Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections

2021-04-14 Thread Celejar
Hi, I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that a bunch of links that had been returning 404, which I had been assuming were dead links, were actually perfectly valid pages, which Firefox had been