Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Marco M.
Am 23.10.2023 um 12:04:35 Uhr schrieb Michael Kjörling: > Encrypted /boot has been supported with GRUB 2 for a while. That > leaves only a minimal portion of GRUB in plaintext on storage. Although it is not default, so users should be aware that they need to do additional steps to encrypt /boot.

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Oct 2023 13:59 +0200, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco M.): > Be aware that the boot loader and the /boot aren't encrypted by default > and they can be attacked (e.g. simply place a tainted kernel inside) by > anybody who has access to the harddisk. Encrypted /boot has been supported with GRUB 2

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Marco M.
Am 23.10.2023 um 12:53:14 Uhr schrieb lester29: > 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose > cryptanalysis? No, the LUKS headers are viewable. You need another layer around that supports hidden containers. > 2. Is it true that key on pendrive is more risky than password

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Oct 2023 12:53 +0200, from leste...@gazeta.pl (lester29): > 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose > cryptanalysis? I don't see how it would. Presumably you would have access to it; therefore that access could potentially be exploited through coercion or torture. ht

Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread lester29
Hi I need to set up full disk encryption of the linux in my laptop. Questions: 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose cryptanalysis? 2. Is it true that key on pendrive is more risky than password because someone can steal the usb key and access data without the need

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-27 Thread David Christensen
sure (like Dove soap sure) that Symantec full disk encryption doesn't work this way because I'm just as sure that none of the Dell models I've ever worked with have this hardware capability. I have tested Intel 520 Series SSD's with self-encryption in two Dell laptop mode

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
t; >> I'm 99.99% sure (like Dove soap sure) that Symantec full disk >> encryption doesn't work this way because I'm just as sure that none >> of the Dell models I've ever worked with have this hardware >> capability. >> > > I have tested Intel 52

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread David Christensen
On 05/26/18 21:16, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:21 PM, David Christensen Have you considered a self-encrypting drive ... I'm 99.99% sure (like Dove soap sure) that Symantec full disk encryption doesn't work this way because I'm just as sure that none of the D

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:21 PM, David Christensen < dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > On 05/25/18 11:55, Robert Dodier wrote: > >> I'm working with Debian 9. I gather that there is a full-disk >> encryption option for the standard Debian installer, which, as

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread David Christensen
On 05/25/18 11:55, Robert Dodier wrote: I'm working with Debian 9. I gather that there is a full-disk encryption option for the standard Debian installer, which, as I understand it, does not include encrypting /boot. ... On 05/25/18 17:33, Robert Dodier wrote: > I am workin

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread David Wright
On Sat 26 May 2018 at 16:51:56 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-05-26, Robert Dodier wrote: > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Pascal Hambourg > > wrote: > > > >> I don't know how Symantec's "full" disk encryption works, but AFAIK a boot > &g

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-26, Robert Dodier wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Pascal Hambourg > wrote: > >> I don't know how Symantec's "full" disk encryption works, but AFAIK a boot >> disk cannot be fully encrypted, > > Yes, this is an important quest

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread Robert Dodier
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > I don't know how Symantec's "full" disk encryption works, but AFAIK a boot > disk cannot be fully encrypted, Yes, this is an important question -- what, exactly, is provided by Symantec here, so that I can lo

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-26 Thread Pascal Hambourg
ictly comparable to whatever is provided by Symantec full disk encryption for Windows. If I can achieve that, I'll be in business. I don't know how Symantec's "full" disk encryption works, but AFAIK a boot disk cannot be fully encrypted, unless the platform firmware can

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Dodier
er is provided by Symantec full disk encryption for Windows. If I can achieve that, I'll be in business. It may be true that encrypted /boot is not really relevant, but I don't want to try to argue with tech support staff that a system with unencrypted /boot is close enough. I feel like it ne

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-25 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 25 May 2018 11:55:34 -0700 Robert Dodier wrote: > Hello, > > I'm working with Debian 9. I gather that there is a full-disk > encryption option for the standard Debian installer, which, as I > understand it, does not include encrypting /boot. (The system I'm >

Re: Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/05/2018 à 20:55, Robert Dodier a écrit : I'm working with Debian 9. I gather that there is a full-disk encryption option for the standard Debian installer, which, as I understand it, does not include encrypting /boot. (The system I'm working on wasn't encrypted when it wa

Possible for full-disk encryption to encrypt /boot as well?

2018-05-25 Thread Robert Dodier
Hello, I'm working with Debian 9. I gather that there is a full-disk encryption option for the standard Debian installer, which, as I understand it, does not include encrypting /boot. (The system I'm working on wasn't encrypted when it was installed, so the system would have to

Re: Full disk encryption on Jessie - usb key and passphrase

2017-05-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 02:02:37PM +0200, Прокси wrote: [...] > I followed instructions from this[1] link and it worked. > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19713918/how-to-load-luks-passphrase-from-usb-falling-back-to-keyboard Thanks for the l

Re: Full disk encryption on Jessie - usb key and passphrase

2017-05-31 Thread Прокси
On 2017-May-29 21:17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 03:36:44PM +0200, Прокси wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have laptop where I set up full disk encryption following this > > tutorial: > > https://xo.tc/setting-up-full-disk-encryption-on-deb

Re: Full disk encryption on Jessie - usb key and passphrase

2017-05-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 03:36:44PM +0200, Прокси wrote: > Hello, > > I have laptop where I set up full disk encryption following this > tutorial: > https://xo.tc/setting-up-full-disk-encryption-on-debian-jessie.html > > It w

Full disk encryption on Jessie - usb key and passphrase

2017-05-29 Thread Прокси
Hello, I have laptop where I set up full disk encryption following this tutorial: https://xo.tc/setting-up-full-disk-encryption-on-debian-jessie.html It works great, but since LUKS can have up to 8 key slots, I would like to add another way to decrypt the laptop: key on a external usb. So, if

Re: Debian full disk encryption

2013-05-06 Thread Brad Alexander
this. :) Also, I have never built on an SSD...But the procedure is sound. --b On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > John Thoe wrote: > > I am trying to set up full disk encryption for Debian. There are a > > lot of options available and I cannot choose which one to us

Re: Debian full disk encryption

2013-05-05 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Trim is disabled peer default for security reasons. Cheers, Chris. green schrieb: >John Thoe wrote at 2013-05-05 19:45 -0500: >> For starters, I am using a laptop for SSD so I read that using LUKS >> is not a good option since it disables TRIM. > >I am using cryptsetup, LUKS, and ext4 on a SS

Re: Debian full disk encryption

2013-05-05 Thread green
John Thoe wrote at 2013-05-05 19:45 -0500: > For starters, I am using a laptop for SSD so I read that using LUKS > is not a good option since it disables TRIM. I am using cryptsetup, LUKS, and ext4 on a SSD; TRIM seems to work. At least, fstrim seems to work as expected. Note that this is with wh

Re: Debian full disk encryption

2013-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
John Thoe wrote: > I am trying to set up full disk encryption for Debian. There are a > lot of options available and I cannot choose which one to use.. > > For starters, I am using a laptop for SSD so I read that using LUKS > is not a good option since it disables TRIM. >

Debian full disk encryption

2013-05-05 Thread John Thoe
Hello debian-user, I am trying to set up full disk encryption for Debian. There are a lot of options available and I cannot choose which one to use.. For starters, I am using a laptop for SSD so I read that using LUKS is not a good option since it disables TRIM. Anyways, I came across this

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-12-08 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: > Hello, > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), > but what makes me stop > is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( > i5 + 4 GB ) with full > disk

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-29 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:23:10AM -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: > ECB (electronic code block) out performs the other block ciphers, > but it suffers from a pattern attack [1]. > > 1. http://ae7.st/s/i.pr My apologies on the short URL. It is the wrong one. Rather than copy/paste, I just looked a

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-29 Thread deloptes
J. Bakshi wrote: > > Agreed, I also maintain some servers and the swap is on raid. > I have faced disk failure on some servers and due to raid, I could > successfully run the server with the single disk and change the > bad disk with a 30 min. down time. I am using RAID for more then 7 years now

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 26. November 2011 schrieb J. Bakshi: > Hello, > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 > GB ), but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance lag. > Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB ) with full disk > en

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread J. Bakshi
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:23:10 -0700 Aaron Toponce wrote: > Because this is a subject near and dear to my heart, I feel the urge to > chime in. > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:45:29AM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread Aaron Toponce
Because this is a subject near and dear to my heart, I feel the urge to chime in. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:45:29AM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), > but what makes me stop > is the thinking of performance lag. R

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread J. Bakshi
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:24:55 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > Rick Thomas wrote: > > Another point about using a separate swap vs including swap on the > > encrypted LVM: On a server, the LVM will almost certainly be on a > > RAID. There's no point in putting swap on RAID. > > Strongly disagree. Th

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick Thomas wrote: > Another point about using a separate swap vs including swap on the > encrypted LVM: On a server, the LVM will almost certainly be on a > RAID. There's no point in putting swap on RAID. Strongly disagree. The point of raid is to keep the machine running in spite of a disk f

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 28, 2011, at 8:48 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:15:59 + (UTC) Virgo Pärna wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread J. Bakshi
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:15:59 + (UTC) Virgo Pärna wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you > > should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately -- with a > > *random* key. > > > >

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-28 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you > should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately -- with a > *random* key. > I think, that this would not work, if one wants to use hibernation. And

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick Thomas wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >The way I like to set up the system is to set up /boot in its own > >partition on /dev/sda1. Then set up the rest of the disk in /dev/sda5 > >as a logical partition for an encrypted partition. Then use that > >encrypted partition for one large LVM volume.

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:00 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: The way I like to set up the system is to set up /boot in its own partition on /dev/sda1. Then set up the rest of the disk in /dev/sda5 as a logical partition for an encrypted partition. Then use that encrypted partition for one large LVM volume.

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:51:58 -0500 Brad Alexander wrote: > What about your /etc/shadow file and other config files in /etc? > > As I said, I have been running LUKS + cryptsetup on a number of machines > for years: > > my laptop, a C2D P9600 - Built Nov 2010 > my desktop, a C2D E4500 - (Re)built

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:53:21 -0500 Brad Alexander wrote: > You need your windows in an unencrypted partition. At that point, grub > should detect it. You should have at least two unencrypted partitions -- > Your windows dual-boot and /boot...And optionally swap, but that would be > separately enc

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Brad Alexander
You need your windows in an unencrypted partition. At that point, grub should detect it. You should have at least two unencrypted partitions -- Your windows dual-boot and /boot...And optionally swap, but that would be separately encrypted. --b On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:18 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: >

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Brad Alexander
What about your /etc/shadow file and other config files in /etc? As I said, I have been running LUKS + cryptsetup on a number of machines for years: my laptop, a C2D P9600 - Built Nov 2010 my desktop, a C2D E4500 - (Re)built 2007 backup server, a 2GHz P4 - (Re)built 2008 etc... Nothing has faile

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:11:14 -0500 Andrew Reid wrote: > I've had an LVM/luks-encrypted root partition (includes everything > except /boot, on various logical volumes) for several years on two > different Lenovo Thinkpads, and while I've never done any benchmarks, > I haven't noticed any perfor

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-27 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-26, Brad Alexander wrote: > > That is the reason I encrypt the entire banana rather than trying to > encrypt the peel. Makes sense to me (I guess). I don't need to encrypt anything but my home directory (certain folders). I think I could do all I need to do with ccrypt, but I haven't

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-26 Thread Brad Alexander
rad Alexander wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have been using full-disk encryption on my laptop for several years > over > > several laptops. My current one is a Dell Latitude E6500 with a 2.66GHz > > Core2Duo P9600 with 4GB of RAM, and the lag from encryption is not &

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-26 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:18:57 -0500 Brad Alexander wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using full-disk encryption on my laptop for several years over > several laptops. My current one is a Dell Latitude E6500 with a 2.66GHz > Core2Duo P9600 with 4GB of RAM, and the lag from en

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-26 Thread Curt
On 2011-11-26, Brad Alexander wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been using full-disk encryption on my laptop for several years over > several laptops. My current one is a Dell Latitude E6500 with a 2.66GHz > Core2Duo P9600 with 4GB of RAM, and the lag from encryption is not >

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-26 Thread Brad Alexander
Hi, I have been using full-disk encryption on my laptop for several years over several laptops. My current one is a Dell Latitude E6500 with a 2.66GHz Core2Duo P9600 with 4GB of RAM, and the lag from encryption is not noticeable. The way I did it was from the installer. I created a separate (and

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-26 Thread Andrew Reid
> Hello, > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), > but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have > seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB ) with full disk encryption and it is > performing normal, haven't fou

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-25 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:00:24 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:00:05 -0700 > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > J. Bakshi wrote: > > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + > > > 3 GB ), but what makes me st

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-25 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:00:05 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > J. Bakshi wrote: > > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + > > 3 GB ), but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance > > lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB

Re: Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-25 Thread Bob Proulx
J. Bakshi wrote: > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + > 3 GB ), but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance > lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB ) with full > disk encryption and it is performing normal, haven't foun

Full Disk Encryption

2011-11-25 Thread J. Bakshi
Hello, I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), but what makes me stop is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( i5 + 4 GB ) with full disk encryption and it is performing normal, haven't found any lag... So I am inter

Re: Boot without initrd when using full-disk encryption

2011-02-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Arthur Machlas a écrit : > I've built kernels without an initrd a number of times, but never > before on a system with full-desk encryption. When installing Squeeze > on a laptop I used the assisted setup and created a ful-disk > encryption setup, that has a separate /boot partition, the re

Boot without initrd when using full-disk encryption

2011-02-14 Thread Arthur Machlas
I've built kernels without an initrd a number of times, but never before on a system with full-desk encryption. When installing Squeeze on a laptop I used the assisted setup and created a ful-disk encryption setup, that has a separate /boot partition, the rest of the disk LVM and whatever encryptio

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread David Christensen
Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux Debian Lenny. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Key_Setup http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ LUKS works on all machines, with or without cryptographic chipsets (e.g. Intel Truste

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-01-24 a las 10:51 +, Thomas Nguyen Van escribió: (replying to the list) > Morning Cameleon, > Thanks for your reply to my initial post You're welcome. *** > Hardware based FDE that uses BIOS for unlocking the drive should be OS- > independent and I think the above datasheet is ai

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jochen Schulz
(Ccing the OP since I am unsure whether he reads the list.) Thomas Nguyen Van: > > Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under > Linux Debian Lenny. […] Instead of reposting your question from last Wednesday, it would be more polite to answer to the replies you already

Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Good morning Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux Debian Lenny. Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 and/or 7200 (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_momentus_fde_sed_ii_sq_kit.pdf) This solution is very interest

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:21:24 +, Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: > Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under > Linux Debian Lenny. Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 > and/or 7200 > (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_momentus_fde_sed_i

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-19 Thread Juha Tuuna
On 19.1.2011 9:21, Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: > Good evening, > > Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux > Debian Lenny. > Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 and/or 7200 > (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_momentus_fde_sed_

Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Good evening, Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux Debian Lenny. Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 and/or 7200 (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_momentus_fde_sed_ii_sq_kit.pdf) This solution is very interestin