Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:14:00 +1200 Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Chris, > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan. > Congratulations. > 10pts Cheers, Chris. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obviou

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:45:22PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008, Brad Rogers wrote: > > unfulfilling. Patrick McGoohan always maintains there's more to it > > than that. He refuses, however, to be drawn on the subject. Which, > > in itself is just as weird. :-) > > No,

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:56:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing > too easy. Ooops -1000pts -- Chris. == If you are not subscribed, ask to be CC'd as the Policy of this list is to reply to the list only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 02:44:53 +1200 > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > > "No man is an Island." "I'm not a number I'm a free man!" > > 10pts for the program and the actor. > > The Prisoner - Patrick McGoo

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 20:08, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. >> > > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66.

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Great OT thread. Yes, no flaming. > > Last time it was like this, Etch was almost ready... so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest assured that lenny will be out any time. When's the next utnubu due o

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:08:23PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. > > > > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66. > > Oh, wait a minut

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66. Oh, wait a minute... Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Great OT thread. Yes, no flaming. Last time it was like this, Etch was almost ready... I'm trying to remember the last real Etch problem (as opposed to Lenny or Sid questions) other than those where the answer was to remove network-manager :) Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 02:18:18 pm John C. Ellingboe wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >>And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo > >>daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s > >>thru mid 70s

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread John C. Ellingboe
Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s thru mid 70s like /The Shaggy Dog/, /Flubber/, /The World's Strongest Man/, /Escape Fr

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 15:56, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo >> daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s >> thru mid 70

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 15:53, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008 08:18:32 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ron, >>> /The

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo > daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s > thru mid 70s like /The Shaggy Dog/, /Flubber/, /The World's > Strongest Man/, /Escape From Witch Mountai

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 08:18:32 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello Ron, > > > >> /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing > >> too easy. > > > > I di

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:10 -0500 > Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Dave, > > > > younger. It was just weird. > > > > Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? > > To a degree, yes. In the end, if that's all it is, then it's > unfulfill

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:11:37 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > Since it's obvious that pre-teen don't get /The Prisoner/, next time > I guess I'd better not give such broad examples of changing taste. :-) OTOH, ti was the obvious choice, given the genesis of this sub-thr

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 11:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:40:09 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> Preferences change... My children *love* the same movies and > > True, but The Prisoner was not really aimed at

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:10 -0500 Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Dave, > > younger. It was just weird. > Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? To a degree, yes. In the end, if that's all it is, then it's unfulfilling. Patrick McGoohan always maintains there's more to it than t

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:40:09 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > Preferences change... My children *love* the same movies and True, but The Prisoner was not really aimed at a young (i.e. pre-teen) audience. > cartoons that I liked when I was young, but now they just bore

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:44, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ron, >>> I watched it as a

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:31:28PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > Frankly, I don't know what I saw in it when I was > younger. It was just weird. Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello Ron, > > > >> I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late > >> 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, ev

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late >> 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, even if they

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late > 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, even if they did), but didn't obsess > over it. Nor me, TBH. I did try watching it a few years ago when they

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing >> too easy. > > I didn't need Google; I watc

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing > too easy. I didn't need Google; I watched it as a kid. Sheesh, I'm starting to feel old again. :-( -- Regards _ / )

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 09:44, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:18:23PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: >> Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in >>> terms of software) is a matter of degree and f

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 02:44:53 +1200 Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Chris, > "No man is an Island." "I'm not a number I'm a free man!" > 10pts for the program and the actor. The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:18:23PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: >> Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in >> terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is >> dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase about

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 05 April 2008 01:18:23 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in > > terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is > > dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase about > >

Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Allums
Hal Vaughan wrote: Yes, it is an attack on the language, since the other discussion (in terms of software) is a matter of degree and freedom is slavery is dealing with exact opposites. (Where have I heard that phrase about freedom and slavery before?...) Freedom is Slavery : Slogan in 1984 b