Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>> - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very
>> slowly about 20-30secs to pop up
> I really think you need to create a new profile. I am not seeing any of
> this, having a kweather applet constantly on my desk, tried kmoon and
> booting kde apps us
On Wed May 12 2010 11:47:27 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes wrote:
> > - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very
> > slowly about 20-30secs to pop up
>
> I think that you have something borked in your install.
Are you testing in Squeeze or Sid or som
On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes wrote:
> What I am missing now is also the old behavior from CTRL+ALT+DEL to get
> prompt for reboot or shutdown - or whatever. Now this combination is
> locking the screen. Was it adopted from newer windows?
>
No, that still works on my 4.4 system.
>> Thanks. It
deloptes schreef:
I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and
switching language settings
Please, please comment on this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369
The problem is that it was not iresponsive for just 10secs but forever.
I see. Does that happen o
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes wrote:
- weather
>>>
>>
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106
>>
>> This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4.
>>
>
> Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE
On 12 May 2010 02:26, deloptes wrote:
> yes, exactly that's what I mean. the latin "k" has no equivalent in other
> languages (in terms of key code). Windows is doing this wisely since the
> beginning by setting the switch to ALT+SHIFT, which is language
> independent. I like the abbility to chang
On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes wrote:
>>> - weather
>>
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106
>
> This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4.
>
Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE on.
>>> - korganizer
>>
>> Che
deloptes wrote:
> I also think the 4.4 version is pretty usable and as soon as all
> applications that I need are usable I will move to kde4.
>
Second impression is pretty good. For sure there are many small things to do
but it looks and feels ok.
I'll look forward to test and file bugs on it a
Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes wrote:
>
>> In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and
>> associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from
>> english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes wrote:
> In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and
> associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from
> english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely different
> keycode ... So I had
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I'm going to write a list and post it here. ATM I can not start korganizer.
I have some time, so I would like to test 4.4.
Thanks for pointing me to known bugs. I really don't have the patience to
search.
>
> p kteatime
On 11 May 2010 13:50, deloptes wrote:
> deloptes wrote:
>
> screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking
> of using kde
>
> - teatime
p kteatime -
KDE 4 utility for making a fine cup of tea
> - weather
http://
On 11 May 2010 13:37, deloptes wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> Hi, Dotan.
> I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our
> word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software
> people (in most of the cases), because they already think in routines
On 10 May 2010 23:41, consul tores wrote:
> 2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen :
>> On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote:
>>> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more
specific.
>>>
>>> Who are you figuring out you are, man?
>>>
>> A KDE contributor
deloptes wrote:
screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking
of using kde
- teatime
- weather
- moon
- clock/calendar
- wireless manager
- skype
- korganizer
- kwallet
- cpu monitor
- infrared control
- powermanagement
- keyboard
- screen management (xrandr interfac
Dotan Cohen wrote:
Hi, Dotan.
I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our
word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software
people (in most of the cases), because they already think in routines ...
so the logic behind there thinking is not a h
Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote:
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>>
>> . . .
>>
>> >
>> > when is squeeze becoming stable??
>> >
>>
>> According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits
>> 300. That is
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote:
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>
> . . .
>
> >
> > when is squeeze becoming stable??
> >
>
> According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits 300.
> That is the green line
> here: htt
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
. . .
>
> when is squeeze becoming stable??
>
> regards
>
>
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squeeze seem to have 4.3 inside. Did you mean sid to test future
functionality that will probably go into 4.5??
kdebase-runtime-data 4:4.3.4-2 etc.
I'll check sid next.
when is squeeze becoming stable??
regards
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2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen :
> On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote:
>> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
>>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.
>>
>> Who are you figuring out you are, man?
>>
> A KDE contributor who is trying to help make KDE suitable for you. If
> you
On 10 May 2010 19:56, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> You should get a better client. Irrespective of your choice of client, it is
> *your* responsibility to follow the Code of Conduct. This includes only
> sending CC's to posters the request it.
I'll make an effort to edit the CC list, but I'l
On Mon May 10 2010 07:14:32 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I can only assume that came from the KDE 3 manual, which I don't have
> installed locally as I've stated that I am running KDE 4. Sure, I
> could have stfw for it or installed KDE 3, but so could the parent
> poster install KDE 4 and file his own b
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:37AM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only
> > > : to
> > >
> > > the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having these
> > > commands arri
On Monday 10 May 2010 01:53:05 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> [M]y choices are Reply (only to
> lisi.re...@~) or to Reply All (to lisi.re...@~ and to debian-u...@~)
> so you see that I _cannot_ reply to the list without replying to you
> if I do not manually edit the CC list.
You should get a better client.
> I never used the feature (I generally do all my file management with cp, mv,
> etc.), but I believe it worked like this: the user selecs some files,
> activates that option, and provides a folder in the dialog. The selected
> files are then copied to the specified folder.
>
> Nothing that can't b
On Seg, 10 Mai 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote:
See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png.
Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:"
Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he
then perform a normal paste operation in t
> See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png.
> Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:"
>
Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he
then perform a normal paste operation in the destination folder?
One _work_arou
On 10 May 2010 16:08, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> What does "copy files" do then? Describe to me what it does and I will
>> see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a
>> feature request.
>
> Did you not know KDE has a builtin help syst
Dotan Cohen schreef:
On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef wrote:
Dotan Cohen schreef:
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit ->Copy in both Dolphin a
Sjoerd Hardeman schreef:
Dotan Cohen schreef:
On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef wrote:
Dotan Cohen schreef:
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in
3.5 edit>
copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolph
Dotan Cohen schreef:
On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef wrote:
Dotan Cohen schreef:
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
y
On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> What does "copy files" do then? Describe to me what it does and I will
> see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a
> feature request.
Did you not know KDE has a builtin help system? Or are you trolling?
"Edit->Copy Files (F7
On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef wrote:
> Dotan Cohen schreef:
>>>
>>> where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
>>> copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
>
Dotan Cohen schreef:
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:46:59AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird wrote:
> > That is factually incorrect. Dotan has replied to me+list
> > on several occasions without permission.
>
> I did not know that I needed your permission to reply to you.
>
> > From the commen
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 03:18:27PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
> > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
> >>> Dotan Cohen
> >>
> >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
> >> orders?
> >
> > :-) Well said! An
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote:
>> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
>>> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote:
the windows are absolutely useless, i can not
use many, they have all kind of useless information;
>>
>>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that
On Mon,10.May.10, 09:25:42, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you
> haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends
> messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-
On 10 May 2010 09:46, Lisi wrote:
>> Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you
>> haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends
>> messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.
>> I apologize for sending to you "commands" in
On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
>> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
>
> That is factually incorrect. Dotan has replied to me+list
> on several o
On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only
> > : to
> >
> > the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having these
> > commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.
> > I
On 9 May 2010 18:02, Lisi wrote:
> I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to you
> if you were to ask me to do so. But list policy is to stay on list unless
> requested to do otherwise. ;-)
>
> The last one in particular was personal, rude and unpleasant. He is n
On 9 May 2010 17:00, Lisi wrote:
> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant
> emails direct to me.
What "long, rude, unpleasant emails" have I sent to you? Go ahead,
post everything that I've ever sent to you here. I've sent mails only
as long as the demands of y
> where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
> copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
>
In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version?
--
Dotan Cohe
> :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to
> the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having these
> commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance. I
> filter for a reason!
>
Sorry for CCing to you messages that are me
On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote:
> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
>> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote:
>>> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not
>>> use many, they have all kind of useless information;
>
>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific
On Sun May 9 2010 02:35:02 pm Lisi wrote:
> I am, however, very sad that KDE 3.5, which I regard as the pinnacle of
> DE's, is being laid to rest.
We are in agreement here Lisi. It's not that I don't like kde4 it's just that
I'd like to keep what I have since it does just what I want/need it to
On Sunday 09 May 2010 20:35:00 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> I never said that it was not. I was expressing my bewilderment with
> people who seem to get offended when someone offers to submit upstream
> bugs on their behalf if only they would tell him the details of their
> problems, just because he may
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 09:18:05 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> (snip)
> > That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
> > grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
> > work with the people who care abou
On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote:
(snip)
> That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
> grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
> work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just want
> to use the list as your pe
On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
That is factually incorrect. Dotan has replied to me+list
on several occasions without permission. From the comments
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 15:00:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:
[...]
> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant
> emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining about.
On-list complaints about unsolicited CC'ing are also against the code of
conduct, so you are at lea
Op 09-05-10 17:02, Lisi schreef:
> On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>>> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the
>>> last one) before complaining about my complaint.
>>
>> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me
>> t
On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the
> > last one) before complaining about my complaint.
>
> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me
> to hack your mailbox ;)
>
> > And my cr
Op 09-05-10 16:00, Lisi schreef:
>> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
>> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
>
> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant
> emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining
On Sunday 09 May 2010 14:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
> > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
> >>> Dotan Cohen
> >>
> >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
> >> orders?
> >>
> > :-) Well sai
Dotan Cohen schreef:
No - that is the problem!! I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with
it. KDE 4 is different. I don't like it. If I have to, in effect, change
DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would
have to be to KDE 4.
This is a very v
sjoerd: completely agreed!
steef van duin
Sjoerd Hardeman schreef:
Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
Dotan Cohen
Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
orders?
:-) Well
Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
> On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
>>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
>> orders?
>
> :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to
> the list unless a co
I seem not to have forwarded this, although I forwarded the others. And
Dotan seems to have circulated it, but not to here. So, for completeness in
the thread, herewith:
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ...
Date: Friday 07 May 2010
From: Dotan Cohen
To: Lisi ,
On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
> > Dotan Cohen
>
> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
> orders?
:-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to
the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having
2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote:
>> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not
>> use many, they have all kind of useless information;
> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.
Who are you figuring out you are, man?
>> the
And now to the list. Goran, my apologies
Op 08-05-10 06:49, godo schreef:
> >
>> >> Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that
was the
>> >> case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The
>> >> important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that shou
On Sat May 8 2010 08:25:07 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> So long as you are not loading Qt3 libraries in addition to the Qt4
> libraries, KDE 4 is lighter on RAM than KDE 3. You can really feel it,
> too.
Note that many Debian KDE 3.5 installations include both QT3 and QT4,
e.g. to support kdebluetooth or
On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote:
> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not
> use many, they have all kind of useless information;
What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.
> the menu, needs 3
> times more clicks than 3.5;
Can you be more specifi
> I'm sorry, maybe I'm to new to all this stuff and to old fashioned but isn't
> the point in new version make her free of bugs, faster, lighter etc.? Whats
> happened to KISS?
>
> When I was on Windows I hate so much when in every new version everything
> was different and I was losing days to fin
> The unexpected forced downgrade from KDE 3.5 to 4 in Sid actually
> ended up being a good thing for me. (the loss of the ability to have a
> different background for each desktop was a KDE showstopper. So the
> forced downgrade prompted me to actually take a serious look at other
> desktop envir
> No - that is the problem!! I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with
> it. KDE 4 is different. I don't like it. If I have to, in effect, change
> DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would
> have to be to KDE 4.
This is a very valid point that seems
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 08:58:59AM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> I have not evaded the question. I have pointed out that I prefer things that
> are functional to things that are showy.
In that case you might want to consider fvwm?
--
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
--
2010/5/7 godo :
>
>> Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the
>> case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The
>> important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be
>> there (this includes, but is not limited to, functionality pr
Sorry, list - sent to me privately again, and messing up my email client!
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ...
Date: Friday 07 May 2010
From: Lisi
To: Dotan Cohen
On Friday 07 May 2010 17:17:52 you wrote:
> On 7 May 2010 11:56, Lisi wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2
Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the
case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The
important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be
there (this includes, but is not limited to, functionality present in
KDE <4) and if tha
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Lisi wrote:
> No - that is the problem!! I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with
> it. KDE 4 is different. I don't like it. If I have to, in effect, change
> DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would
> have to be to
On Friday 07 May 2010 12:28:03 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the
> case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The
> important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be
> there (this includes, but is
Please tell me what KDE 4.4 is missing, or what it has that you
dislike. I can help address those issues.
I doubt it, because I think that the problem is the basic philosophy. They
have sacrificed funtionality in favour of glitz.
E.g.
1. You cannot turn off all those horrible, and to me actu
Sorry list/Dotan. :-( I thought that I had persuaded my email client to send
this to the list. (It wanted to send the reply to Dotan because he had sent
a copy to me personally.)
Lisi
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ...
Date: Friday 07 May 2010
From: Lisi
To:
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