How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Hello, I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the 'mail' command) I can get email at my gmail accoun

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Grok Mogger wrote: I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the 'mail' command) I can get email at m

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Miles Fidelman wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the 'mail' command

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 15:53, Grok Mogger wrote: > I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and > under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is > HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of > whatever script it runs. I don't understand how

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread John Hasler
Grok Mogger writes: > I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends > email. man mail > My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet > email It already does. > ...so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box > (which I read via the

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever script it runs. I don't understand how it mails that outp

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 19:53 -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Grok Mogger wrote: > >> I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically > >> sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real > >> Internet email so instead of just getting mail

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread John Hasler
Grok Mogger writes: > I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under > what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. Most likely it uses the 'sendmail' command, which all MTAs provide. > Are you telling me that if I set my MAILTO entry to somethin

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 19:16, John Hasler wrote: > Grok Mogger writes: [snip] >> I find that hard to believe. > > Why? Because he's been a client all his life. The technology has been magic to him. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linu

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 15:53, Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever script it runs. I do

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread John Hasler
Grok Mogger writes: > I could easily bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux box > sitting right here without the need for a valid "mail account" on a > "mail" server or anything of the like. That's right, isn't it? No. You have a valid "mail account" on a "mail server": your own mach

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 08:45:40PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: > > And secondly, with this little epiphany comes a realization of > just how easy it is to spam and where it all comes from... I > could easily bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux > box sitting right here without the

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 08:45:40PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: And secondly, with this little epiphany comes a realization of just how easy it is to spam and where it all comes from... I could easily bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux box sitting

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-22 Thread Joe
Grok Mogger wrote: Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 15:53, Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever s

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-22 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 13:22 +, Joe wrote: > It will be traceable to your IP address, and after a while you will > be blacklisted. Spam is invariably sent from somebody else's computer > after hijacking it, or through a mail server configured as an open > relay (yes, they still exist). > > But

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-23 Thread Paul Johnson
John Hasler wrote: > Grok Mogger writes: >> I could easily bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux box >> sitting right here without the need for a valid "mail account" on a >> "mail" server or anything of the like. That's right, isn't it? > > No. You have a valid "mail account" on a

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Grok Mogger wrote: > I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron > magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to > send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my > unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the 'mail' > command) I can get email at

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe wrote: >> And secondly, with this little epiphany comes a realization of just how >> easy it is to spam and where it all comes from... I could easily >> bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux box sitting right >> here without the need for a valid "mail account" on a "mail" server

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 08:45:40PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: >> >> And secondly, with this little epiphany comes a realization of >> just how easy it is to spam and where it all comes from... I >> could easily bombard whomever I wanted with email from my Linux >> b

[Fwd: Re: How does Cron send email?]

2007-02-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever script it runs. I don't understand how it mails that output. I'd like to unde

OT: Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joshua J. Kugler wrote: What do you mean "legitimate internet mail?" What would illegitimate internet mail be? Well.. not to throw gas on the fire spam, improperly formatted headers, :-( Miles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

was Re: [Fwd: Re: How does Cron send email?]

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 19:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Grok Mogger wrote: >> I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under >> what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails >> it. I know that cron just sends the ou

Mail for newbies (was Re: How does Cron send email?)

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 18:53, Grok Mogger wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Grok Mogger wrote: >>> I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically >>> sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real >>> Internet email so inst

Re: was Re: [Fwd: Re: How does Cron send email?]

2007-02-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 07:23:49PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/21/07 19:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > Grok Mogger wrote: > >> I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under > >> what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails > >> it. I know t

Re: was Re: [Fwd: Re: How does Cron send email?]

2007-02-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/07 21:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 07:23:49PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/21/07 19:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Grok Mogger wrote: [snip] > The most amazing moment in the development of my *nix geekness wa

smtp time spam filtering (was: How does Cron send email?)

2007-02-22 Thread David Hart
On Thu 2007-02-22 10:33:34 -0500 Greg Folkert wrote: > > The real problem I see now, is SPAM zombies delivering mail to the ISP > mail server, then it becomes RFC-822 compliant. I fix that by slowing > down the conversation in the beginning by using SA-Exim which scan for > SPAM on SMTP time. If i