Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 11:09 GMT, Tim Connors penned:
Not a case of ext3 being crap, a case of ext3 with journalled *data*
being crap. Quite a nice allrounder with the other two ext3 options
set. And you get the same problems with all other fses when their
equivalent of jo
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 02:56:49PM +1300, cr wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:17, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 08:49:26PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> > > > >
> > > > > Are th
cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07 Oct 2003 04:10 +1300]:
> Anyway, *now*, Ctrl-Alt-BS does indeed just kill X and leave me in Linux as
> it should.However, whether it'll still work if X 'siezes' I'll only know
> if and when I have a sieze.
Check out the magic sysreq key. With its secure access
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:17, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 08:49:26PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
(snip)
> > > >
> > > > Are there any downsides to ext3?
> > >
> > > If you have a filesystem with a
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 11:09 GMT, Tim Connors penned:
>
> Not a case of ext3 being crap, a case of ext3 with journalled *data*
> being crap. Quite a nice allrounder with the other two ext3 options
> set. And you get the same problems with all other fses when their
> equivalent of journalled *data*
El Viernes, 10 de Octubre de 2003 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> How can I clean a dirty journal???
> I can't startup my machine...
Well I have done:
tune2fs -O as_journal /dev/hdxx
Now everithing goes properly, It seems that the ext3 , is not that safe.
Another tip is that my system mount
How can I clean a dirty journal???
I can't startup my machine...
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:05:24PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> >On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> >
> > >If you have and ext3 that you want to revert to ext2, you can just:
> >
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:39:18 -0600:
> There was a link to an article on slashdot today comparing various
> journaling FSes. Apparently (I just read the comments, not the actual
> article, like the typical /. reader), ext3 is pretty much el crapola
> com
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 06:59 GMT, cr penned:
>
> Thanks everybody for your input.
>
> As it happens, all my partitions are ext2 at the moment (except for
> some FAT16's but we needn't go into that ;)
>
> I'm contemplating swapping some of 'em to ext3, I was just wondering
> if the pluses outwei
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:05, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> >>If you have and ext3 that you want to revert to ext2, you can just:
> >>
> >>tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hdXX
> >>
> >>-Roberto
> >
> > Out of curiosity, w
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:05:24PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> >On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> >
> > >If you have and ext3 that you want to revert to ext2, you can just:
> > >
> > >tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hdXX
> > >
> > >-Roberto
...
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 at 00:05 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
>
> Right. But, the OP said something about sticking with ext2 instead of
> ext3. I assumed that he already had an ext3 drive that he wanted to
> make ext2.
>
> -Roberto
>
Ah. I didn't read it like that, but maybe he did.
--
moniqu
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:49:23 -0400,
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Pigeon wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:49:26 +1300,
cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > I think, with my capability for pushing the wrong butt
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
If you have and ext3 that you want to revert to ext2, you can just:
tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hdXX
-Roberto
Out of curiosity, why would one want to do this?
Also, you can always mount an ext3 drive as ext2 j
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> If you have and ext3 that you want to revert to ext2, you can just:
>
> tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hdXX
>
> -Roberto
Out of curiosity, why would one want to do this?
Also, you can always mount an ext3 drive as ext2 just by specifying
Pigeon wrote:
I think, with my capability for pushing the wrong button at critical
moments, I might be safer to stick with ext2 then.
Well, I admit that I found out about this the hard way. But I think
that was when I was running slink; the woody versions of the tools all
seem to spit out warn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 08:49:26PM +1300, cr wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > > > I've only had one sieze in rece
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of
> > > > recently is sudden
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of
> > > recently is sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault.
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of
> > recently is sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault.
> > Either way, it has the same effect of discombobulatin
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:58, Mike Mueller wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2003 06:02, Neo wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
>
>
>
> > > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect,
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was the only key combination that worked. Is
> > > there any sett
On Sunday 05 October 2003 06:02, Neo wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
> > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect,
> > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was the only key combination that worked. Is there
> > any setting that will restore its function of 'kill X but don't reboot
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
>
> I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of recently is
> sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault. Either way, it
> has the same effect of discombobulating my hard drive so I have to do a lot
> of
Just an important addition in my opinion:
> Then edit /etc/fstab and change the "ext2" to "ext3" for each partition
> on which you enabled a journal and reboot or remount those partitions.
> The conversion only takes a few tens of seconds for each partition, and
> you can always "back out" by simp
cr wrote:
I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of recently is
sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault. Either way, it
has the same effect of discombobulating my hard drive so I have to do a lot
of fscking on startup again.Occasionally this compl
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:42, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:42:17AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:37:19PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect,
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was the only key combination that worked. Is
>
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:46, Kent West wrote:
> Neo wrote:
> >On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
> >>Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for
> >> any reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in
> >> the command line.
>
> This is Debian's behav
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:42:17AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:37:19PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
> > was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will
> > restore its funct
Neo wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for any
reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in the
command line.
This is Debian's behaviour also.
However, since I got more sophisticated hardware
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
> Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for any
> reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in the
> command line. Very handy, since Linux is ~ 10^6 times more stable than X
> ;)
>
> However, since I
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On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:37:19PM +1200, cr wrote:
> I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
> was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will
> restore its function of 'kill X but don'
Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for any
reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in the
command line. Very handy, since Linux is ~ 10^6 times more stable than X
;)
However, since I got more sophisticated hardware with an ATX power s
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