On 2017-05-30 12:40, Emanuele Bernardi wrote:
My system has en_US.utf8 for default, but I wanted the iso time so I
just
added the it_IT.utf8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales) and changed in gnome
Region
& Language the Formats.
And what do you do when you need the Paper format, currency, numeric
sy
7 18:22
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?
On 2017-05-30 08:46, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> Perhaps a GNOME-specific mailing list might have more options for you.
> Maybe there's some way to tell GNOME not to touch t
On 2017-05-30 08:46, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Perhaps a GNOME-specific mailing list might have more options for you.
Maybe there's some way to tell GNOME not to touch the locale settings
*at all*, and simply let them pass through from the underlying
operating
system.
Yes, I have switched to taki
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 08:33:16AM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> I want to make everything proper and swapping to all en_DK variables
> fixes some things but not others. The only proper solution is to:
>
> 1) be able to change individual variables within Gnome (which I don't
> think is
On Sat 27 May 2017 at 17:39:48 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote:
> L'octidi 8 prairial, an CCXXV, gwmf...@openmailbox.org a écrit :
> > […]
> […]
> In this matter, considerations such as "preserving local cultures" are
> irrelevant.
An astonishing juxtaposition!
> Convenience sets a few rules. The
On 2017-05-27, Curt wrote:
> On 2017-05-27, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Define "appears to not be working." Anyhow, I believe someone here can
>>> help you with this if only they'll pipe up (and you stop top-posting).
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>> "Top-posting" is putting my writing above the qu
> "g" == gwmfms6 writes:
g> You are correct. typing locale in the virtual (text) console produces
g> LC_TIME=en_DK. So GNOME is overriding PAM's environment.
g> Thank you so much for helping me discover this! I learned a lot in the
g> process.
Did you re-start gdm after editing the files i
On Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:39:03 AM Curt wrote:
> Normally, you should "interleave" your responses, trimming the material
> not pertinent to your reply.
+1
> I say this because bottom-posting (like bottom-fishing--well, not
> precisely) in which the poster quotes (following others of his ilk)
On 2017-05-27 11:39, Nicolas George wrote:
L'octidi 8 prairial, an CCXXV, gwmf...@openmailbox.org a écrit :
A lot of Europe does it, and it is wrong! It goes back quite a while
to when
it was fashionable to use a dot (.) as a symbol for multiplication. So
Europe stopped using a dot to signal a
On Sat, 27 May 2017, at 16:24, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> A lot of Europe does it, and it is wrong! It goes back quite a while to
> when it was fashionable to use a dot (.) as a symbol for multiplication.
I don't think it's a straightforward as that.
Mathematics (at university level) use
L'octidi 8 prairial, an CCXXV, gwmf...@openmailbox.org a écrit :
> A lot of Europe does it, and it is wrong! It goes back quite a while to when
> it was fashionable to use a dot (.) as a symbol for multiplication. So
> Europe stopped using a dot to signal a decimal point to avoid confusion
> (they
On 2017-05-27, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
>>
>> Define "appears to not be working." Anyhow, I believe someone here can
>> help you with this if only they'll pipe up (and you stop top-posting).
>>
>> ;-)
>
> "Top-posting" is putting my writing above the quote? this is frowned
> upon? (or you
On 2017-05-27 10:49, Frank wrote:
Op 27-05-17 om 14:33 schreef gwmf...@openmailbox.org:
Denmark does LC_NUMERIC wrong (using a comma where there should be a
decimal point).
Really? When did Denmark start using a decimal point instead of a
comma?
Regards,
Frank
A lot of Europe does it, and i
On 2017-05-27 10:20, Curt wrote:
On 2017-05-27, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
This definitely explains the problem (Thanks for contributing!), but I
don't think it's a real solution because changing the Gnome region
like
described (although it does change LC_TIME) changes other variables
(i
Op 27-05-17 om 14:33 schreef gwmf...@openmailbox.org:
Denmark does LC_NUMERIC wrong (using a comma where there should be a
decimal point).
Really? When did Denmark start using a decimal point instead of a comma?
Regards,
Frank
On 2017-05-27, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> This definitely explains the problem (Thanks for contributing!), but I
> don't think it's a real solution because changing the Gnome region like
> described (although it does change LC_TIME) changes other variables (in
> addition to LC_TIME) that
This definitely explains the problem (Thanks for contributing!), but I
don't think it's a real solution because changing the Gnome region like
described (although it does change LC_TIME) changes other variables (in
addition to LC_TIME) that make no sense for the United States (eg.,
LC_NUMERIC,
On 2017-05-26, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:57:22PM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
>> A virtual console (eg, Ctrl+Alt+F2) produces the correct result when I
>> type ncal.
>>
>> But if I type ncal in gnome-terminal, it starts the weeks with Sunday
>> (which is wrong).
You are correct. typing locale in the virtual (text) console produces
LC_TIME=en_DK. So GNOME is overriding PAM's environment.
Thank you so much for helping me discover this! I learned a lot in the
process.
On 2017-05-26 13:01, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:54:24PM -0400, gw
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:57:22PM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> A virtual console (eg, Ctrl+Alt+F2) produces the correct result when I
> type ncal.
>
> But if I type ncal in gnome-terminal, it starts the weeks with Sunday
> (which is wrong). GNOME problem, right? That's why /etc/defau
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:54:24PM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> I neglected to say my environment. Sorry! I am on GNOME and login via
> GDM.
>
> I do not use SSH and it says connection refused when I try.
>
> when I open a virtual console, and type ncal, the calendar begins with
> Mo
A virtual console (eg, Ctrl+Alt+F2) produces the correct result when I
type ncal.
But if I type ncal in gnome-terminal, it starts the weeks with Sunday
(which is wrong). GNOME problem, right? That's why /etc/default/locale
isn't working how I expected?
On 2017-05-26 12:54, gwmf...@openmailbo
I neglected to say my environment. Sorry! I am on GNOME and login via
GDM.
I do not use SSH and it says connection refused when I try.
when I open a virtual console, and type ncal, the calendar begins with
Monday--so this appears to be working.
The problem is with GNOME, then? I suppose Debi
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 06:31:29PM +0200, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> ~/Desktop $ cat /etc/default/locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8
> ~/Desktop $ locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=
> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8
> LC_TIME=en_US.utf8
> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-
I did #1 and #2 before posting here, before putting LC_TIME at
/etc/default/locale. I reconfirmed that it is as you say it should be
when running locale -a.
Here is what locale reports after I log back in:
~/Desktop $ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:54:14AM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> Thank you.
You forgot to include the mailing list.
> I have already done #1 and #2.
Did it work?
> #3 is what I need
Did it work?
> but I want them permanent. I am fine with it being
> system-wide for every login (ie,
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:30:15AM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> This wiki is apparently out of date because it does not work:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#First_day_of_week
I don't advise putting ANYTHING at all in /etc/default/locale. That
would affect all logins by all users from
This wiki is apparently out of date because it does not work:
https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#First_day_of_week
I have the system default set to en_US.utf8. But I need sensical dates
and times (and en_US.utf8 uses nonsensical date & time format).
How can I set my Debian 8 stable to use en_DK.u
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