Nuno Magalhães wrote:
snipped
Can i have a regular desktop Debian without an MTA?
yes. install 'nullmailer' via aptitude. i use it on my laptops.
(haven't read all the posts yet, so someone might have already suggested
this)
Preston
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On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
On 01/31/2009 07:28 PM, Aneurin Price wrote:
...
I'm curious however what it is you have installed that depends on exim, or
the
mail-transport-agent virtual package. I have no MTA installed on my
machine, and
no
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
[snip]
main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole
client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion.
That's Windows-think to say whether a *computer* s a client or server.
Such a mindset needs to be
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 08:34:46AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
[snip]
main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole
client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion.
That's Windows-think to say whether
I don't consider myself windows-centric. I've been using Debian at
home since Woody and even though i'm not afraid of the command prompt
i don't consider myself a power-user either (i'll get there). The
point being yes, i know what clients and servers are and agree with
Martin Kraus' definition,
Nuno Magalhães:
Would you mind posting the output of 'aptitude why mail-transfer-agent' or
'aptitude why exim', whichever is more enlightening?
$ aptitude why mail-transport-agent
i lsb Depends lsb-core
i A lsb-core Depends exim4 | mail-transport-agent
Thanks a lot for showing this
I wrote:
No. Lsb is an extra package that you almost certainly don't need unless
you are running LSB-compliant closed-source software. LSB stands for
Linux Standard Base. Google it.
Tzafrir Cohen writes:
'aptitude rdepends lsb-base' gives results such as avahi-daemon,
apache2.2-common,
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:58:01PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Greetings.
I use webmail, i'm not running a mail server. At most i'd use an MUA
to comunicate with whichever mail services i use. However, i must have
exim4 installed. How can i work around this? Regardless of how much
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.ptwrote:
The way i see it, most regular users either use webmail, or an MUA
to conenct to webmail accounts. Technicaly speaking, i think there
should be a way to configure mail-dependant programs to either use an
MTA or use
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:21:24PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
...
Back to exim, if i have X i have x11-common (and i also have avahi)
therefore i apaprently must have lsb, which i believe is a metapackage
for lsb-* (i have base, core, cxx, etc installed). So apaprently i
can't just
Martin Kraus wrote:
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 08:34:46AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
[snip]
main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole
client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion.
That's
On 02/01/2009 12:49 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
[snip]
I never said server machines can't run client applications. But the
term server has always referred to machines who's main purpose is to
provide services to other machines (clients).
As I said - it has been that way for the more than 40
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:21:24PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
[snip]
For now i'll stick with Florian Kulzer's suggestion of reducing DNS,
since that's the main issue for me (slow booting).
if its a start up problem, and you are not really using the mta why not
go
update-rc.d -f exim4
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:24:57AM +, Nuno Magalhães
nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt was heard to say:
Would you mind posting the output of 'aptitude why mail-transfer-agent' or
'aptitude why exim', whichever is more enlightening?
$ aptitude why mail-transport-agent
i lsb Depends
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 04:30:49PM -0800, Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org
was heard to say:
$ aptitude search '?depends(mail-transport-agent)'
Sorry, that should be
$ aptitude search '?installed?depends(?name(^mail-transport-agent$))'
to restrict it to installed packages and to
Sorry, that should be
$ aptitude search '?installed?depends(?name(^mail-transport-agent$))'
to restrict it to installed packages and to make extra-sure nothing
else sneaks in.
Before i saw your second post i ran:
$ aptitude search '?depends(mail-transport-agent)' |grep ^i
i A at
Greetings.
I use webmail, i'm not running a mail server. At most i'd use an MUA
to comunicate with whichever mail services i use. However, i must have
exim4 installed. How can i work around this? Regardless of how much
resources it requires i find it irritating. The real nudge is having
Starting
On Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 21:58:01 +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote:
How can i work around this? Regardless of how much
resources it requires i find it irritating. The real nudge is having
Starting MTA: lagging by boot by half a minute or so.
You need one, as far as the system is concerned, to
On 01/31/2009 03:58 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Greetings.
I use webmail, i'm not running a mail server. At most i'd use an MUA
to comunicate with whichever mail services i use. However, i must have
exim4 installed. How can i work around this? Regardless of how much
resources it requires i find
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/31/2009 03:58 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Can i have a regular desktop Debian without an MTA?
Linux? No.
Please, don't overestimate :) Base system is also Linux, though it doesn't
contain any MTA
for the obvious reasons.
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 16:12:24 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/31/2009 03:58 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Greetings.
I use webmail, i'm not running a mail server. At most i'd use an MUA
to comunicate with whichever mail services i use. However, i must have
exim4 installed. How can i work
* Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt [2009 Jan 31 16:00 -0600]:
Can i have a regular desktop Debian without an MTA?
Difficult, but try the esmtp package. It is very light weight and only
runs when actually needed.
- Nate
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The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
Thanks for the suggestions.
For now i'll try restraining DNS. Whenever the loss of mouse pointer
forces me to reboot again i'll see it it works :) If not, either
getting it out of the init scripts o switching to another MTA.
I like the client/server approach but this MTA stuff is kind of
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions.
For now i'll try restraining DNS. Whenever the loss of mouse pointer
forces me to reboot again i'll see it it works :) If not, either
getting it out of the init scripts o switching to
On 01/31/2009 07:28 PM, Aneurin Price wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions.
For now i'll try restraining DNS. Whenever the loss of mouse pointer
forces me to reboot again i'll see it it works :) If not, either
getting
2009/2/1 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt:
I like the client/server approach but this MTA stuff is kind of
annoying for regular desktop use. Is there a bogus MTA? One that'll
pretend to be one and accept stuff from its clients but basically
/dev/null everything?
I like nullmailer,
Nye writes:
I'm curious however what it is you have installed that depends on exim,
or the mail-transport-agent virtual package.
bsd-mailx is standard and depends on mail-transport-agent. You can, of
course, remove bsd-mailx though this anti-MTA prejudice baffles me.
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Would you mind posting the output of 'aptitude why mail-transfer-agent' or
'aptitude why exim', whichever is more enlightening?
$ aptitude why mail-transport-agent
i lsb Depends lsb-core
i A lsb-core Depends exim4 | mail-transport-agent
Same results if i why on exim4. I assume lsb
Nuno writes:
I assume lsb includes cron and other base-level tools that require mail
functionality.
No. Lsb is an extra package that you almost certainly don't need unless
you are running LSB-compliant closed-source software. LSB stands for
Linux Standard Base. Google it.
Is this all that
On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
[snip]
main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole
client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion.
That's Windows-think to say whether a *computer* s a client or
server. Such a mindset needs to be banished to get full
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:55:50PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Nuno writes:
I assume lsb includes cron and other base-level tools that require mail
functionality.
No. Lsb is an extra package that you almost certainly don't need unless
you are running LSB-compliant closed-source software.
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