Status Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 09:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. I wish to install Stretch on two additional

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/16/2017 10:16 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 15 Jun 2017 at 13:34:56 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [SNIP] That is my intention. I don't recall all of what I chose during the original install, but what I intend is guaranteed to be no more than the original. The cache will not contain

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Jun 2017 at 13:34:56 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > [NOTE: I'm interleaving comments referring to Brian's post of > 06/13/2017 11:48 AM and I'm still absorbing David's post of > 06/15/2017 10:34 AM] > > On 06/13/2017 04:13 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 12:28:41

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett
[NOTE: I'm interleaving comments referring to Brian's post of 06/13/2017 11:48 AM and I'm still absorbing David's post of 06/15/2017 10:34 AM] On 06/13/2017 04:13 PM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 12:28:41 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/13/2017 11:48 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/15/2017 11:19 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. I wish to install Stretch on two

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week > ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. > I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. > > I wish to install Stretch on two additional machines. I am near my

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Jun 2017 at 06:26:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/14/2017 12:56 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Wed 14 Jun 2017 at 08:50:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >>>On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 > >>>Richard Owlett

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 03:05:36PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Jun 2017 at 06:26:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > A mechanics question, "How to count the number of installed packages?" > > I'd like to be able to reproducibly count installed packages. > > dpkg -l | grep ^ii | wc -l That

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Jun 2017 at 06:26:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/14/2017 12:56 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Wed 14 Jun 2017 at 08:50:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >>>On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 > >>>Richard Owlett

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/14/2017 12:56 PM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 14 Jun 2017 at 08:50:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, netinst iso. I had never experimented with just

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 14 Jun 2017 at 08:50:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 > >Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >Hello Richard, > > > >>netinst iso. I had never experimented with just how much could > >>be done

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, netinst iso. I had never experimented with just how much could be done with netinst without any internet connectivity. Probably not a lot. See;

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-13 14:37 (UTC-0400): > Brian wrote: . >> Being bandwidth constrained is a consideration, but updates to a stable >> installation rarely involve more than a few 10s of MB. . > But only because a machine with no Internet connectivity won't have a > (graphical) web

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread David Christensen
On 06/13/2017 07:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. I wish to install Stretch on two additional

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 12:28:41 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/13/2017 11:48 AM, Brian wrote: > >On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 09:20:43 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than > >>a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 14:37:08 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 07:28:09PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Being bandwidth constrained is a consideration, but updates to a stable > > installation rarely involve more than a few 10s of MB. > > But only because a machine with no

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 01:37 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 07:28:09PM +0100, Brian wrote: Being bandwidth constrained is a consideration, but updates to a stable installation rarely involve more than a few 10s of MB. But only because a machine with no Internet connectivity won't

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 07:28:09PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Being bandwidth constrained is a consideration, but updates to a stable > installation rarely involve more than a few 10s of MB. But only because a machine with no Internet connectivity won't have a (graphical) web browser installed. Those

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 12:51:10 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/13/2017 12:26 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 11:32:03 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>On 06/13/2017 09:41 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> > >>>Secondly, you > >>>start apt-cacher-ng running (it appears[1] to need

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >netinst iso. I had never experimented with just how much could be done >with netinst without any internet connectivity. Probably not a lot. See; https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ Internet

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 12:26 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 11:32:03 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/13/2017 09:41 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: Secondly, you start apt-cacher-ng running (it appears[1] to need minimal configuration). Thirdly, you import your already downloaded files[2] (you'll

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 11:48 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 09:20:43 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache.

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 11:32:03 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/13/2017 09:41 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > >Secondly, you > >start apt-cacher-ng running (it appears[1] to need minimal > >configuration). Thirdly, you import your already downloaded files[2] > >(you'll find apt's cache at

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Jun 2017 at 09:20:43 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I > have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not > _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. The cache will contain those

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2017 09:41 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 09:20:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files

Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 09:20:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. I wish to install Stretch on

Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

2017-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
I am running Stretch that was fully updated/upgraded less than a week ago. I have the flash drive used to do the original install of Stretch. I have not _intentionally_ purged any files from cache. I wish to install Stretch on two additional machines. I am near my internet data cap and wish