Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 13:39, John Crawley wrote: If you don't want to wait for 6.1.67-1 to arrive in Bookworm stable, it is available in bookworm-proposed-updates [1][2], so one workaround would be to temporarily add that repository [3] to apt sources before upgrading. Debian point release 12.4 has

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-14 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 02:48, Kevin Price wrote: "The bug" (Bug#1057967 & Bug#1057969) occurs only in kernel version 6.1.66-1 (package -6.1.0-15, released with bookworm 12.4). No other debian kernel version has this bug. It might not affect you, and it can be remedied/worked around. If it does affect

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-14 Thread Kevin Price
Rick: Am 13.12.23 um 02:47 schrieb Rick Thomas: > Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on > a new PC? Possibly yes, but please read on. > If so, where can I download it from? Please always use official sources: https://www.debian.org/CD/ > If not, how

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 06:35:08AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > > Though unless

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > > enough to

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Gareth Evans
Can anyone please explain: 1. Why upgrades of stable into a potentially seriously compromised state were allowed to continue, twice, rather than pulling the upgrades? or... 2. Why the best temporary solution isn't to revert the kernel to the last known good version so

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread David Wright
On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > "the bug"? >

The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. "the bug"? What's this bug you're referring to? Stefan

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 05:47:48PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on >> a new PC? > > Well, with a netinst, the issue isn't what's on the netinst medium. It's >

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 05:47:48PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on > a new PC? Well, with a netinst, the issue isn't what's on the netinst medium. It's what's on the Debian mirrors, which the installer will use for most of

Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on a new PC? If so, where can I download it from? If not, how much longer is it likely to be before one exists? Thanks! Rick