Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-31 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 22-10-2014 17:41, Steve Litt έγραψε: On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:01:17 +0300 "Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis" wrote: Hi, after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i

Re: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-26 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: >> >> after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie >> with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided >> the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with >> Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jess

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
On 22/10/2014 7:06 μμ, Martin Read wrote: On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: What details do you think are neccecary ? Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd utilities / libr

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Read
On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: What details do you think are neccecary ? Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd utilities / libraries etc. dbus-daemon is linked against l

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rusi Mody wrote: On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jochen Spieker wrote: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with Wheezy and if there is no a cle

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc's i su

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 22-10-2014, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:40 +0200, ο/η Jochen Spieker έγραψε: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc

Debian and upstream choices (was: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD)

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'l

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:40:49 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: > I really don't get why Debian receives so much hate in this discussion. > Upstream software depending on systemd is not Debian's choice. Because of the abysmal lack of communication of the reasons behind the descision. I tried to bring

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Jochen Spieker
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with > Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 21-10-2014, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 23:55 -0700, ο/η Rusi Mody έγραψε: > On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis > wrote: > > Hi, > > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with > > one of the defaults DE > > and with no sys

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: > Hi, > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with > one of the defaults DE > and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's > pc's i support, i'll co

Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-21 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Hi, after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie without a trace of systemd until