Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-04 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 4 February 2018 at 22:50, Michael Fothergill < michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 4 February 2018 at 15:20, Andy Smith wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: >> > On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote: >> > > If you

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-04 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 4 February 2018 at 15:20, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote: > > > If you want to make genuine constructive suggestions for how things > > > could be improved, I think you s

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Michael, On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote: > > If you want to make genuine constructive suggestions for how things > > could be improved, I think you should start by identifying what > > exactly the deficiencies

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, February 03, 2018 06:14:11 PM Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 09:43:33PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > I am trying to suggest one would want to move faster than the approximate > > cycle time of new stable releases here. > > You have been repeatedly told

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 09:43:33PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > I am trying to suggest one would want to move faster than the approximate > > cycle time of new stable releases here. > > You have been repeatedly told that the upda

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 09:43:33PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > I am trying to suggest one would want to move faster than the approximate > cycle time of new stable releases here. You have been repeatedly told that the updates will appear as security updates in Debian stable when the

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 3 February 2018 at 17:24, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Feb 2018 at 10:37:34 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > On 2/3/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 03, 2018 02:47:43 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > > >> On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > > >> > D

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
; > and ask us about this very thing. >> > >> > And so, as peculiar as it seem to some people, I am >> > trying to consider what would work practically for such individuals. >> >> Last month, you posted around 75 contributions to this thread and its >>

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
xactly who you mean > without a reference, but I'm going to hazard a guess: the person > technically at the top of this thread, Dextin Jerafmel. > > > If that is the case, then the "very thing" they asked was how to > recognise and install the latest version of th

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Feb 2018 at 10:37:34 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 2/3/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, February 03, 2018 02:47:43 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > >> On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > >> > Debian > >> > already has a place to test the latest and great

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Feb 2018 at 07:47:43 (+), Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 11:53:36AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > Thus for anyone in the entire world who is new to linux,the most > > > efficient route

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 3 February 2018 at 15:37, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 2/3/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, February 03, 2018 02:47:43 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > >> On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > >> > Debian > >> > already has a place to test the latest and greatest (and

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/3/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 03, 2018 02:47:43 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: >> On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: >> > Debian >> > already has a place to test the latest and greatest (and most >> > broken) versions of packages and it is not the stable r

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, February 03, 2018 02:47:43 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > > Debian > > already has a place to test the latest and greatest (and most > > broken) versions of packages and it is not the stable release that > > new users are directed at. >

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-03 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 2 February 2018 at 04:35, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 11:53:36AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > Thus for anyone in the entire world who is new to linux,the most > > efficient route at present could well be to install Fedora and be > > stable and spectre protect

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 11:53:36AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Thus for anyone in the entire world who is new to linux,the most > efficient route at present could well be to install Fedora and be > stable and spectre protected out of the box rather than taking on > the indefatigable

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-02-01 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > The response from Greg was the following: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:36:46PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > ​If I become si

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 31 January 2018 at 23:13, Richard Hector wrote: > On 01/02/18 11:51, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > > > On 31 January 2018 at 22:46, Richard Hector > > wrote: > > > > On 01/02/18 11:20, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > As it turns out I have installed d

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Richard Hector
On 01/02/18 11:51, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > On 31 January 2018 at 22:46, Richard Hector > wrote: > > On 01/02/18 11:20, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > As it turns out I have installed debian on a usb before and booted it up > > successfully. >

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 31 January 2018 at 22:46, Richard Hector wrote: > On 01/02/18 11:20, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > As it turns out I have installed debian on a usb before and booted it up > > successfully. > > It did occur to me that you could advise the new users to buy a > > raspberry pi computer > > and us

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Richard Hector
On 01/02/18 11:20, Michael Fothergill wrote: > As it turns out I have installed debian on a usb before and booted it up > successfully. > It did occur to me that you could advise the new users to buy a > raspberry pi computer > and use that to run sid and then install the kernel on my from it. > >

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 31 January 2018 at 18:31, Michael Lange wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:54:36 + > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > > What about if you became sid, made the spectre kernel and backed it up > > on a usb drive > > and then you backed up the work files and wiped the entire installation > > a

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Lange
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:54:36 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > > What about if you became sid, made the spectre kernel and backed it up > on a usb drive > and then you backed up the work files and wiped the entire installation > and then > reinstalled stretch. > > Could you then install the ker

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 05:54:36PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > What about if you became sid, made the spectre kernel and backed it up on a > usb drive > and then you backed up the work files and wiped the entire installation and > then > reinstalled stretch. Way too much work and downtime.

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > The response from Greg was the following: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:36:46PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > ​If I become si

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 16:36, Michael Fothergill < michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 30 January 2018 at 16:02, Michael Fothergill < > michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 30 January 2018 at 15:23, Elimar Riesebieter >> wrote: >> >>> * rhkra...@gmail.com [2018-01-29 10:47

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 21:45, Michael Lange wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:14:36 + > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > > I am not really so sure what the correct dosage ought to be now. > > Maybe just stick with the booze... ;-) > > scnr > > Michael > ​It's OK. As it turns out, I don't dri

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Lange
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:14:36 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > > I am not really so sure what the correct dosage ought to be now. Maybe just stick with the booze... ;-) scnr Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. Fascinating is a word I use for t

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 18:02, Michael Lange wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:47:57 -0500 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Again, checking / confirming my understanding, if you download a kernel > > image (which is normal for me), there is no need for me to have any > > version of GCC as the image

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 16:02, Michael Fothergill < michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 30 January 2018 at 15:23, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > >> * rhkra...@gmail.com [2018-01-29 10:47 -0500]: >> >> [...] >> > On the other hand, if I download kernel source, I would need GCC, and a >> > ve

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 30 January 2018 at 15:23, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * rhkra...@gmail.com [2018-01-29 10:47 -0500]: > > [...] > > On the other hand, if I download kernel source, I would need GCC, and a > > version that is sufficient for the code. > > One can check the compiler version the running kernel is

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 30/01/2018 18:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: The response from Greg was the following: On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:36:46PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: ​If I become sid and install the kernel correctly,

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* rhkra...@gmail.com [2018-01-29 10:47 -0500]: [...] > On the other hand, if I download kernel source, I would need GCC, and a > version that is sufficient for the code. One can check the compiler version the running kernel is built with by: $ cat /proc/version Linux version 4.14.15-toy-lxtec

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 January 2018 08:22:18 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > The response from Greg was the following: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:36:46PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > ​If I bec

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:13:47PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > The response from Greg was the following: > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:36:46PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > ​If I become sid and install the kernel correctly, could I go back to > > bein

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Lange
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:31:01 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > ​In the recent MVE thread , I had asked if I could compile the spectre > fix kernel in Sid and move to buster (I thought moving down to > stretch would likely not be practical). > > The response from Greg was the following: > > On T

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 12:49, Michael Fothergill < michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 29 January 2018 at 10:17, Michael Lange wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:35:58 + >> Michael Fothergill wrote: >> >> > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:33:27 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Michael Lange wrote: > > > I believe that deloptes' rather harsh comment referred to your > > suggestion that the OP should upgrade to Sid rather than to anything > > else you wrote. > > yes indeed - thats true > > in fact you can setup sid

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:29:19 +0100 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Michael Lange wrote: > > compiler that is "retpoline-aware" (as the > > "checker"-script calls it, whatever that means) > > The term was coined by Google engineers > > https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/7625886 > "The

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Michael Lange wrote: > I believe that deloptes' rather harsh comment referred to your > suggestion that the OP should upgrade to Sid rather than to anything else > you wrote. yes indeed - thats true in fact you can setup sid with debootstrap, chroot to it, build your kernel there and install on

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Lange wrote: > compiler that is "retpoline-aware" (as the > "checker"-script calls it, whatever that means) The term was coined by Google engineers https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/7625886 "The name “retpoline” is a portmanteau of “return” and “trampoline.” It is a tramp

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:18:35 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, January 29, 2018 03:35:58 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > > On 29 January 2018 at 07:52, Dextin Jerafmel > > wrote: > > > I tried to search for available Kernel images but there isn't any > > > newer Kernel than 4.9.0.5 > >

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:49:19 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > > ​That is pretty much what I had been led to believe already except > for the part where you suggest that a kernel compiled in Sid could > apparently > be used in stable. Again, if that would be true I should have > mentioned it to

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:47:57 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Again, checking / confirming my understanding, if you download a kernel > image (which is normal for me), there is no need for me to have any > version of GCC as the image is pre-compiled. Sure. > > On the other hand, if I download

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Carl Fink wrote: > Be fair: you also don't need Spectre or Meldtdown to compromise > Linux-based computers.  Somethings as simple as going a week between > installing security upgrades can do it. well - at least that's not so easy as windows or android with compromised security in mind

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > Hardware was also becoming more powerful, as one would expect.  More RAM > meant less pressure to produce minimalist kernel images. > > All of these things put together meant that for most users, Debian's > kernel images were good enough that they didn't feel a need to buil

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:47:57AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Again, checking / confirming my understanding, if you download a kernel image > (which is normal for me), there is no need for me to have any version of GCC > as the image is pre-compiled. > > On the other hand, if I download

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2018 at 13:43:20 (+), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:18:35 -0500 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > I regularly download "security" upgrades for Wheezy. I assume that > > most of those don't take effect until I restart the application. For > > instance, a Firefox up

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 29, 2018 09:06:13 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 29 January 2018 at 13:35, Michael Fothergill < > > michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> what has gcc7 to do with the patches is unclear to me, but I admit I > >> have never worried about. > > > > ​I thought you had to hav

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 02:28:06PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > My conclusion to this Spectre and Meltdown hysteria is, that a single > machine in a secure environment is not exactly endangered. > People should better take care of their mobile devices, especially phones > and tablets, where you need n

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread Boyan Penkov
Does checkrestart (apt-get install checkrestart) prompt for application restarts on library updates, or only for daemons? On Jan 29, 2018 08:43, "Joe" wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:18:35 -0500 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > I regularly download "security" upgrades for Wheezy. I assum

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 13:35, Michael Fothergill < michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 29 January 2018 at 13:28, deloptes wrote: > >> Michael Fothergill wrote: >> >> > I accept that are some kernels that you could run in stable apparently >> > that address the security issue etc. >> > I

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:18:35AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > iiuc, the fixes for Spectre and Meltdown have been "backported" > (probably not the right word) to Wheezy (which is my "everyday" > machine). If I'm wrong about that, somebody can let me know. The confusion here is that "S

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 13:28, deloptes wrote: > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > I accept that are some kernels that you could run in stable apparently > > that address the security issue etc. > > I apologise for inaccuracy there. > > But perhaps not all of what I posted is BS. > > You can run any

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 13:26, wrote: > On Monday, January 29, 2018 06:22:50 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > > ​I accept that are some kernels that you could run in stable apparently > > that address the security issue etc. > ​Do they work on spectre as well as meltdown? Sorry for not replying on t

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:18:35AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I regularly download "security" upgrades for Wheezy. I assume that most of > those don't take effect until I restart the application. For instance, a > Firefox upgrade does not take effect until I shutdown Firefox and rest

Re: comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:18:35 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I regularly download "security" upgrades for Wheezy. I assume that > most of those don't take effect until I restart the application. For > instance, a Firefox upgrade does not take effect until I shutdown > Firefox and restart i

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Michael Fothergill wrote: > I accept that are some kernels that you could run in stable apparently > that address the security issue etc. > I apologise for inaccuracy there. > But perhaps not all of what I posted is BS. You can run any kernel in stable I just build 4.14 make oldconfig make -j4

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 29, 2018 06:22:50 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > ​I accept that are some kernels that you could run in stable apparently > that address the security issue etc. I'd go a step further--it's not some (random) kernels that you could run, but it is the updated kernels (now, and unle

comment and new question--when do upgrades take effect (was: Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown)

2018-01-29 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 29, 2018 03:35:58 AM Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 29 January 2018 at 07:52, Dextin Jerafmel wrote: > > I tried to search for available Kernel images but there isn't any newer > > Kernel than 4.9.0.5 > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get the >

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 10:17, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:35:58 + > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get > > the latest kernel from the kernel.org website. > > You also need to install GCC7 in sid which

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:20:17PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: So I should have mentioned it to them.  But, to be fair the OP specifically mentioned that they were interested in fixes to the meltdown and spectre vulnerabilities ie both problems not just one of them. Well, to be fair, it wo

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 10:17, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:35:58 + > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get > > the latest kernel from the kernel.org website. > > You also need to install GCC7 in sid which

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread arne
> > sudo install spectre-meltdown-checker > > sudo spectre-meltdown-checker > > > > works at least in stretch. > > Seems like stretch-backports must be enabled for that, though. You are right. I forgot to check.

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 10:10, deloptes wrote: > Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get the > > latest kernel from the kernel.org website. > > worst BS ever seen - DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PLEASE > > Michael, please stop writing such things

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:48:27 +0100 arne wrote: > sudo install spectre-meltdown-checker > sudo spectre-meltdown-checker > > works at least in stretch. Seems like stretch-backports must be enabled for that, though. Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ..

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:35:58 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get > the latest kernel from the kernel.org website. > You also need to install GCC7 in sid which will give you version 7.3.0 > at present. That is a new enough c

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Michael Fothergill wrote: > Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid).  Then you need to get the > latest kernel from the kernel.org website. worst BS ever seen - DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PLEASE Michael, please stop writing such things in public regards

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread arne
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:35:58 + Michael Fothergill wrote: > > ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get > the latest kernel from the kernel.org website. > You also need to install GCC7 in sid which will give you version > 7.3.0 at present. That is a new enough co

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:35:58AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: ​Your need to upgrade to unstable (Debian Sid). Then you need to get the latest kernel from the kernel.org website. This is not good advice to a beginner. You also need to install GCC7 in sid which will give you version 7.3.

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Bastien Durel
Le lundi 29 janvier 2018 à 07:52 +, Dextin Jerafmel a écrit : > Hello > > I've installed Debian 9.3 about one and a half month ago . I'm newbie > to Linux world > My Kernel was 4.9.0.3 at the first of installation . After upgrading > ( sudo apt upgrade ) it becomes 4.9.0.4 > But in Your site Y

Re: Kernel for Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 29 January 2018 at 07:52, Dextin Jerafmel wrote: > Hello > > I've installed Debian 9.3 about one and a half month ago . I'm newbie to > Linux world > My Kernel was 4.9.0.3 at the first of installation . After upgrading ( > sudo apt upgrade ) it becomes 4.9.0.4 > But in Your site You've mention