On Sunday, 8 January 2006 at 21:13:17 -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Angus Mackenzie wrote:
The Tasksel stage of the installer could indeed make life easier for the
neophyte. It could strongly advise them to install a desktop environment by
default and make the choice of a console an option for
Chris Howie wrote:
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
On an advanced install that's exactly what you do.
Except that Debian put Gnome there when all I selected was Desktop
environment. Come on, you know that Linux users tend to value specificity.
I was that newbie 18 months ago!
Debian was my first experience of Linux and I found ending up at a console
after my first installation surprising and difficult. I got through it with
lots of reading of documentation and googling, followed by a blundering and
error prone crash course in
Steve Lamb wrote:
How hard can it be to give the user a choice during the install, and why is
that such a stupid idea according to you?
You are given a choice. You just refuse to see that.
the way to choose is fine by me, but, for example, manually going
through aptitude and finding
Joris Huizer wrote:
I think, if the newbie just wants kde because of some fancy screenshots,
it's too hard for him/her; remember the newbie doesn't know the
character '/' upons up a search in so many linux/unix tools, so he/she
is completely lost in an unknown interface
Why would it
Steve Lamb wrote:
Joris Huizer wrote:
I think, if the newbie just wants kde because of some fancy screenshots,
it's too hard for him/her; remember the newbie doesn't know the
character '/' upons up a search in so many linux/unix tools, so he/she
is completely lost in an unknown interface
Why
Angus Mackenzie wrote:
The Tasksel stage of the installer could indeed make life easier for the
neophyte. It could strongly advise them to install a desktop environment by
default and make the choice of a console an option for those who Know What
They Are Doing, as I do 7 or 8 machines
On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:30 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
Chris Howie wrote:
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
On an advanced install that's exactly what you do.
Except that Debian put Gnome there when all I selected was Desktop
environment. Come
Andy Streich wrote:
Steve, rather than defending the status quo perhaps you could bend a little
and hear the request being made in a different light.
I'm not defending the status quo, I am pointing out the inaccuracies in
what people are posting. I'm all for doing things better, believe
Steve Lamb wrote:
Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want different DEs.
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
I still haven't
uninstalled Gnome, something I've been meaning to do for a long time, but
haven't had the willpower to spend that
Chris Howie wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want different DEs.
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
I still haven't
uninstalled Gnome, something I've been meaning to do for a long time, but
This may be considered off topic by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called Linux Distribution Chooser.
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the chooser...
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
I went through
Don Jackson escreveu:
This may be considered off topic by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called Linux Distribution Chooser.
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the chooser...
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc
Don Jackson writes:
I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
installing Debian.
There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
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I made honest selections regarding the last few builds with Debian I have
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John Hasler wrote:
Don Jackson writes:
I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
installing Debian.
There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
OK, in the small context of the above quote, revise that to say:
I still don't know WHY
On 06 Jan 2006, Don Jackson wrote:
This may be considered off topic by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called Linux Distribution Chooser.
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the chooser...
http
Don Jackson wrote:
This may be considered off topic by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called Linux Distribution Chooser.
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the chooser...
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc
Don Jackson wrote:
Admittedly this is not a scientific poll, and I'm not interested in
starting (another) flame war over KDE vs. GNOME (send those comments to
/dev/null please), but I am interested in seeing the Debian Installer
give the user a choice during installation.
Because (IIRC)
Steve Lamb wrote:
Because (IIRC) the change is quite simple before the first login from the
GDM screen. I believe barring any user intervention to the contrary when a
GUI environment is selected *both* are installed and the user can choose his
poison from the GDM dropdown. Certainly
Chris Howie wrote:
Except now you're missing twice the disk space. Seriously, installing both
DEs
is a complete waste of space, unless the user is interested in evaluating both
DEs to see which one he likes better.
Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want different
Don Jackson wrote:
John Hasler wrote:
Don Jackson writes:
I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
installing Debian.
There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
OK, in the small context of the above quote, revise that to say:
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