Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-20 Thread W Paul Mills
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Actually it's not superstition at all. I think you can still recover a file that's been overwritten once with zeroes... just open the HD (in a clean room, of course) and read off the sectors with a electron microscope (or I think the older Norton

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit superstitious to me! Actually, the giberrish itself is

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread jghasler
Christian writes: I think you can still recover a file that's been overwritten once with zeroes... just open the HD (in a clean room, of course) and read off the sectors with a electron microscope (or something like that). No need to open the drive. Just signal process the analog output from

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
At 11:19 AM 6/18/97 +0200, you wrote: Hi Tim, as far as I know the data is still there (until the blocks that it occupies are reused). Unfortunately deleting for ext2fs meaning deleting the last reference or pointer to the file. Consequently the file simply Is there a way to securely delete a

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote: Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's gone; no line, no waiting.. Right

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread stephen
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500 To:debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux FS Question Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs and develop a program to do it? I'm sure

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Maybe a proper way of doing is to fill the file with zeroes from /dev/zero before removing. Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist |

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread John Kuhn
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500 To:debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux FS Question Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study

Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Tim O'Brien
Under the FAT16 system when a file is deleted, it's only removed from the FAT. Though the file appears gone, it still remains on the drive. When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file gone for good or is it just removed from view while it remains on the disk?

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote: When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file gone for good or is it just removed from view while it remains on the disk? Nope. It's pretty much gone forever. Will

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Christian Meder
On Jun 17, Tim O'Brien wrote Under the FAT16 system when a file is deleted, it's only removed from the FAT. Though the file appears gone, it still remains on the drive. When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file gone for good or is it just removed from view