Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-18 Thread Henrik Enberg
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I should add one extremely annoying and frustrating problem I have recently had in xemacs21-gtk/Gnus: I can select data in another X window, and paste into a Gnus message. That is good, normal, defacto X behaviour. However, if somebody sends me a

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
Joseph == Joseph Dane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joseph one way you might be able to accomplish this is to use Joseph 'levels'. you can set a mail (or news) group at a certain Joseph level, and when you check for new mail gnus will only Joseph fetch for groups at or below that

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
Eric == Eric E Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric Not sure what you want here. You can set it up with a Eric backend that uses a standard unix mbox format to keep the Eric mail, which then you could feed to mailsync or something... I seem to remember (from a while ago) that it

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
Brian == Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian The main limitations of Gnus for me, I guess are: won't Brian check SSL server key, and won't cache IMAP data (unless you Brian manually tell it to, but then it won't delete the messages Brian when they are erased from the

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Brian May
Charles == Charles Sebold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles Except for calendaring - Emacs + Gnus + BBDB + Charles gnus-pers.el to enable one to switch accounts easily Charles while composing posts/emails. Emacs has calendaring but Charles currently can't share meeting info,

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Huygen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also run vmware (http://www.vmware.com) on your machine, and just run outlook on top of that. You *could* do that, because VMware is a sophisticated program that seems to work very well. However, to continuously run an application like Outlook, Vmware seems

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs.

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Matti Airas
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 09:13:37AM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: You *could* do that, because VMware is a sophisticated program that seems to work very well. However, to continuously run an application like Outlook, Vmware seems not very suitable. VMware shares the processor cycles evenly between

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread John S. J. Anderson
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT), Richard Cobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Richard I'm a fan of VM, because I'm used to the Emacs keybindings, Richard and it's the only MUA I've found which lets you edit messages Richard that you receive in-place. FWIW, Gnus does that too. Richard I've

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Eric E Moore
Brian == Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian - Gnus doesn't support storing mail (on local computer as Brian opposed to IMAP) in any shared location. Instead, it will pull Brian all mail out of the Maildir or mbox file, and insert it into Brian its own private spool. This makes caching the

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Jason Rashaad Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm personally using a combination of fetchmail-ssl, procmail, and kmail. Handles everything I need it to, and a lot more! - Must be able to handle multiple IMAP-based accounts. (not necessarily on the same server) fetchmail. Check out the

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Joseph Dane
Brian == Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian However, Gnus seems to perform badly (IMHO) when accessing Brian remote mail: Brian - on startup, it tries to check for mail on every folder. This Brian is slow and time consuming (I only have a shared 28.8kbps Brian Internet

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Jason Rashaad Jackson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm personally using a combination of fetchmail-ssl, procmail, and kmail. Handles everything I need it to, and a lot more! - Must be able to handle multiple IMAP-based accounts. (not necessarily on the same

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on , July 13, John S. J. Anderson did write: On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT), Richard Cobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Richard I'm a fan of VM, because I'm used to the Emacs keybindings, Richard and it's the only MUA I've found which lets you edit messages Richard that you

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Sebold
On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) Except for calendaring - Emacs + Gnus + BBDB + gnus-pers.el to

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Kurt Lieber
I'm wedded to the way Outlook displays information. With one look at the main Outlook screen, I can tell how many unread messages I have in each account, the content of the first unread message in my primary account (via the preview pane) as well as whether any of these messages have attachments,

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Charles Sebold wrote: On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) But you seem very wedded to the _way_

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Craig Dickson
Kurt Lieber wrote: I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I really do like Linux and would like to transition over to it for my desktop machine, but because of it's weakness on the MUA side, I haven't been able to do so. (weakness is

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Jimmy Richards
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0700, Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Hall Stevenson
OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. At first, I was

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Eric E Moore
Charles == Charles Sebold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) Charles

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Craig Dickson
Hall Stevenson wrote: The best part is, many people who bash Microsoft products have never used them, or at least not recently. I'm by no means defending their stuff (I'm using MS Outlook Express to send this, by the way, no gurus need to examine the mail headers to expose me). It's simply

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread DvB
Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0700, Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Andrew Dixon
Brian Nelson wrote: Kurt Lieber wrote: snip If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated anyone who uses MS email products is ignorant will reconsider their statement. That's not an accurate quote, but... Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of that? Do

MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Kurt Lieber
OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I really do like Linux and

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brendon Leese
On Thursday 12 July 2001 19:35, Brian Nelson wrote: Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Alan Shutko
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of that? Because he's an Emacs fan? 8^) It doesn't sound as if he necessarily wanted a single program to do all that, but did want a single solution. (Check the references to integrate into

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Sebold
On 21 Tammuz 5761, Eric E. Moore wrote: I was going to suggest gnus, but seems I was beaten to it. (I wasn't sure about the preview pane/show fisst 3 lines) One could manage something, using a combination of window reconfiguration and a custom variable to steal the first three lines of the

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:35:42PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: | Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of that? Do This was my reaction also. Just for the record I used to be a full-time windows user, before I was introduced to Unix and Linux. I have tried a lot of

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread List Manager
You could also run vmware (http://www.vmware.com) on your machine, and just run outlook on top of that. I've personally never done it, but I have seen people at work using it to run Lotus Notes on their linux boxes. - g -Original Message- From: Brendon Leese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Martin Rowe
On Thursday 12 July 2001 17:28, Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I'm tempted to drop the from the sentence ;-) I, for

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Brendon Leese wrote: If you wish to use GNU/Linux nonetheless then perhap you could use wine (www.winehq.com). Wine is animplementation of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs on top of X and Unix. Think of Wine as a Windows compatibility layer. Simply mount your old Windows partition containing

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Thursday, July 12, Kurt Lieber did write: I'm wedded to the way Outlook displays information. With one look at the main Outlook screen, I can tell how many unread messages I have in each account, the content of the first unread message in my primary account (via the preview pane) as

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kl OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on kl about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that kl you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. ... kl If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated