Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:44:03PM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: >> On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with l

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:44:03PM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with lots of > > text files in them. each text file is a single email with all its

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David E. Fox wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with >> lots of text files in them. each text file is a single email >> wit

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-06-09 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:30:12 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is what maildir format is. A maildir is a directory with lots of > text files in them. each text file is a single email with all its info > intact. My setup (for a long time) (optional fetchmail), postfix

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-21 Thread s. keeling
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > email method. That's... unbelievable. > > Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:05:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > > > I'll bite: > > > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > > > And over something so sill

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:05:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > > I'll bite: > > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > > And over something so silly!! > > > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > > Windows has sooo

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 14:42:07 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > I'll bite: > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > And over something so silly!! > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow > horrible death!!!

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 14:42 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > I'll bite: > I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. > And over something so silly!! > > Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. > Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow > horrible death!!! Hav

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Thomas
I'll bite: I can't stand it when you guys hijack a thread like this. And over something so silly!! Everyone knows that CLI tools are dead. Windows has sooo much of the market share that *nix will die a slow horrible death!!!

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:15:04 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > Well, I use vim and I now type "i" in front of almost every word when I > > use other editors. Try to top that! > > > > (I have the nagging feeling that w

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Well, I use vim and I now type "i" in front of almost every word when I > use other editors. Try to top that! > > (I have the nagging feeling that we are not doing this flamewar thing > correctly. Maybe we have to wait for a con

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > > [...] > > > > >

Re: [OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Marc Shapiro
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: [...] It's so won

[OT] Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 13:49:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: [...] > > >It's so wonderful to have your mail > > > tak

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:02:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > >

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20 -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > > ema

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:37:20AM -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > > e

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-15 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:07PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > > email method. That's... unbelievable. > > Sure it can, it just uses the S

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-14 Thread Richard
Steve Lamb wrote: You were given many answers that work quite well. If you do not understand those answers might I suggest researching them instead of discarding them out of hand and stating the same question to the same set of individuals mere days later. There's the door. Your choice. *wave

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > and the fact is, coming from a Window and Mac back ground, it would > appear, that I need some kind of support, > hence asking the questions (over and over and over ) for the sake of > protecting what is already running. Actually what you need is an understanding that in the u

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 22:17 -0400, Richard wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >Richard wrote: > > [snip] > >Furthermore I think that you're not sure what you want. Look at what you > >asked for here. You don't want a database solution but you then say a > >database, SQL, would be ok. So do yo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Richard
Steve Lamb wrote: Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself I'm not sure why, people address both of your concerns adequately with several solutions all of which work just fine. Instead of reexplaining yourself take a moment to actually examine the solutions people have off

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 15:46 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >>Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > Does localhost:25 not work for you? > > Besides, you must remember that the Mozilla suite and associated > products are

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to know what is unbelievable? mutt not bein

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. Sure it can, it just uses the SMTP method of access. Want to know what is unbelievable? mutt not bein

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Glenn English
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. SMTP server localhost *is* sendmail. Is here, anyway. - --

Re: Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > >>Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>>Even sub-folders? >> >>Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. >>OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing >>sent mail on the

Problem with T-bird (was Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 ))

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Even sub-folders? > > Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. > OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing > sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to m

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Richard, Am 2006-05-11 16:17:43, schrieb Richard: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > > First: > Don't want to store email into any kind of box > ie. Mbox You should use Maildir... > Want email to be

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 12:35 +1000, Arafangion wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > > I must mention that either because of the location of my INBOX folder, > or because of the volume of mail I Have, evolution also fails for me, > Debian Thunderbird is the only mail p

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > Thought I would re-explain myself I'm not sure why, people address both of your concerns adequately with several solutions all of which work just fine. Instead of reexplaining yourself take a moment to actually examine the solutions people have offered to see if they fit your

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Arafangion
Steve Lamb wrote: >Ron Johnson wrote: > > >>Even sub-folders? >> >> > >Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. >OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing >sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to me to force local folders

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Even sub-folders? Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to me to force local folders for sent mail, drafts and other such sto

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 15:38 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, Sylpheed & Outlook, Web Mail are all IMAP- > > capable MUAs. I've read, though, that T-bird doesn't have good > > IMAP capabilities, though. > > Thunderbird has one of the best IMAP impleme

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, Sylpheed & Outlook, Web Mail are all IMAP- > capable MUAs. I've read, though, that T-bird doesn't have good > IMAP capabilities, though. Thunderbird has one of the best IMAP implementations around. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who de

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 15:18 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP > > Ron, Thanks, > which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? None. They are not MUAs (Mail User Agents). Evolution, T-bird, Mutt, S

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:18:05PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP > > Ron, Thanks, > which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? > none of those are mail clients (programs that read and reply to

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP Ron, Thanks, which one of these application would allow me to read and reply to emails? Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 01:08:28PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron, > What components would I need to make this work for pop3 accounts ( no imap) pop3 accounts on which end? We've already suggested fetchmail for collecting mail FROM pop3 accounts and various solutions to put them into maildir format.

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:40 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How many clients are we talking about? Just you, or a company > > full of people? > > Just me fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/maildrop/courier-IMAP Works like a *champ*. My wife and I have been using it for two years w

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: How many clients are we talking about? Just you, or a company full of people? Just me for now... Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:04 -0400, Richard wrote: > Rich Johnson wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > >> Thought I would re-explain myself > >> > >> Regarding Mail, > >> What I wanted to do, if possible, > >> is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) (

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:08 -0400, Richard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: > > > > > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thought I would re-explain myself > > > > [snip] > > > Ron, > What components wo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 12, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:What you're doing differently is that you're _keeping_ the messages   (255K of them) whereas I purge any mailboxes with >10K messages.  If   you choose to use Maildir, I'd advise that you configure your system   to limit the number of messages maintai

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( th

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Rich Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( thousands ) avg 2800 per day and have spam filters applied and rules applied, and mo

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 11:58 -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: > On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: > > > Thought I would re-explain myself > > > > Regarding Mail, > > What I wanted to do, if possible, > > is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) > > ( thousands ) avg 2800 per da

Re: Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 12, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Richard wrote: Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( thousands ) avg 2800 per day and have spam filters applied and rules applied, and move into folder, as p

Mail Issues (pt 2 )

2006-05-12 Thread Richard
Thought I would re-explain myself Regarding Mail, What I wanted to do, if possible, is to have the mail fetch from pop3 accounts (several) ( thousands ) avg 2800 per day and have spam filters applied and rules applied, and move into folder, as pure text messages, with header intact. This woul

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-12 Thread Stephen
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 02:48:20AM + or thereabouts, p wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > > corrupted. > > > however, i just wanted to add tha

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread p
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > // __deletia__ ...sorry for the loss and that i don't have a "substitute" recommendation. however, i just wan

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Looking for a simple method of doing this: > Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. > corrupted. > > First: > Don't want to store email into any kind of box > ie. Mbox > > Want email to be retrieved from Pop3 ac

Re: Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Lale
Richard wrote: Looking for a simple method of doing this: Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. corrupted. First: Don't want to store email into any kind of box ie. Mbox Want email to be retrieved from Pop3 accounts, and (spam filter applied) and moved into folders,

Mail issues

2006-05-11 Thread Richard
Looking for a simple method of doing this: Main reason for the changes, lost 255,000 email in a mbox format. corrupted. First: Don't want to store email into any kind of box ie. Mbox Want email to be retrieved from Pop3 accounts, and (spam filter applied) and moved into folders, as pure text (.t

Mail issues

1999-05-17 Thread Matthew Thompson
Hello, My debian 2.1 box has two NIC's: one connected to my DSL router and one connected to the hub for my local network. I recently registered the domain mattyt.net and had my ISP point it to my DSL IP and also point mail.mattyt.net at the same IP. I have sendmail and qpopper installed. The