On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:00:22PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> > In the muc groups' articles, why not set the "followup-to:"
> > header to be the mailing list e-mail address?
>
> Because newsreaders are expecting newsgroups to be listed in the
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
> In the muc groups' articles, why not set the "followup-to:"
> header to be the mailing list e-mail address?
Because newsreaders are expecting newsgroups to be listed in the
followup-to, and it wouldn't work?
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On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:56:59PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > (I think it would be a good idea for debian-user shadow
> > newsgroups to be moderated anyway, if nothing else so that they
> > can point to a mailbot that tells people
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't know how "odd" it is, but I have confirmed that it
>doesn't used the moderation mechanism. It uses an NNTP client
>program that harvests articles and sends them to the mailing
>list (discarding articles that origina
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> (I think it would be a good idea for debian-user shadow
> newsgroups to be moderated anyway, if nothing else so that they
> can point to a mailbot that tells people they should be mailing
> articles to the mailing list. However, I'm n
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:53:03PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
>
> > I don't see how there is a possibility of a loop. If there _is_
> > danger of a loop, it must already be there, since I'm not
> > proposing that the gateway functionaly be changed in any way.
>
> I'm surprised you don't see any ex
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:19:44AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
| Right. But I was proposing that the muc.* list be moderated.
| When somebody "posts" to a moderated group,
| the articled doesn't get posted directly to the newsgroup. The
| article is e-mailed to a "moderator".
What happens wh
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:19:44AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Right. But I was proposing that the muc.* list be moderated.
> When somebody "posts" to a moderated group, the articled
> doesn't get posted directly to the newsgroup. The article is
> e-mailed to a "moderator".
>
> My proposal was
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Newsgroups: muc.lists.debian.user
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops
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On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 03:36:46PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
| On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
| > (I think it would be a good idea for debian-user shadow newsgroups to be
| > moderated anyway, if nothing else so that they can point to a mailbot
| > that tells peop
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
| On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:28:55PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
| > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
| > > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
| > >> I'm suggesting a moderated group where p
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > >> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
> > >> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
> > >> The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.
> > >
> > > Yup, that's how everybody else do
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:28:55PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
> >> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Colin Watson wrote:
>> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> >> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
>> >> newsgroups, but pos
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:58:20AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
> > out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
> > responsible for the gateway hasn't set
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
> out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
> responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.
Actually, I believe this is up to the mail admin to check for loops,
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
> >> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
> >> to the li
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
>> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
>> to the list. Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
>> with postings going to the mailing lis
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
> to the list. Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
> with postings going to the mailing list?
Bid
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:02:01AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:
>
> > a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
> >and in "linux.debian.user" news group?
>
> It varies by propagation path. Not long. Try muc.linux.deb
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:
> a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
>and in "linux.debian.user" news group?
It varies by propagation path. Not long. Try muc.linux.debian(?), as
it's the anointed official mirror group.
> b: Do all the messages sent
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:28:39PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Keith O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >As must be apparent, I am thinking of taking this mailing list via
> >newsgroups and I just want to see the down side, if any.
>
> It might
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Keith O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone advise me, assuming a "good" newsgroup feed\supplier,
>
>a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
> and in "linux.debian.user" news group?
No idea.
>b: Do all the messages sent to t
Hi,
Can someone advise me, assuming a "good" newsgroup feed\supplier,
a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
and in "linux.debian.user" news group?
b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?
c: Can a person write to the mailing list by po
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