Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-12-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Dec 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Aptitude is very aggressive and usually wrong about removing other > "unneeded" apps when you remove one app. Maybe this only happens > when you start out using apt-get, but is nonetheless very > aggravating and disconcerting. Thus, I stick with apt-get. >

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-12-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 06:38:45AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/30/06 10:50, Ralph Katz wrote: > > On 11/29/2006 08:50 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > [snip] > > On 11/17/2006 01:30 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> Meanwhile, Debian installs "synaptic" by default. Use synaptic > >> instead of aptitu

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-12-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/06 10:50, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 11/29/2006 08:50 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: [snip] > On 11/17/2006 01:30 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: >> Meanwhile, Debian installs "synaptic" by default. Use synaptic >> instead of aptitude. >> >> RLH > > Au cont

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-12-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 11/29/2006 08:50 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > [BTW, this should be an FAQ: Package managers - what's the difference > between apt, aptitude, dpkg, dselect, synaptic... ?] > > > Yes :-) Try them all by yourself and decide for yourself

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-30 Thread Ralph Katz
On 11/29/2006 08:50 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: [BTW, this should be an FAQ: Package managers - what's the difference between apt, aptitude, dpkg, dselect, synaptic... ?] > Yes :-) Try them all by yourself and decide for yourself. Each tool > has merits. Question is not "which is better" but "which

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:55:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/28/06 19:26, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:13:27PM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > If a package is in the Debian repository, and if it can't be installed > > by using any one of the user-interface programs

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Krauss
Arlie Stephens wrote: Hi Folks, It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . To what extent do these tools understand the same data, i.e. to what extent can one mix and match between them? I notice some

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Krauss
John Hasler wrote: s. keeling writes: And the downside is, you might say: apt-get remove $SOME_GNOME_PROGRAM and it will also remove Gnome (if you let it); Ditto KDE. Gnome and KDE are metapackage which have no contents. They exist only to pull in all the real packages th

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-29 Thread John Hasler
Micha Feigin writes: > In terms of history first came dpkg, next dselect, then apt-get and then > aptitude. Both apt-get and aptitude work with dpkg behind the scenes. > synaptic (I think that there is also a kde version) is just a glorified > GUI based aptitude AFAIK. Aptitude, Apt-get, and Synap

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-29 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 02:13, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi Folks, > > It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and > dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . > To what extent do these tools understand the same data, i.e. to what > extent can one m

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread John Hasler
s. keeling writes: > And the downside is, you might say: >apt-get remove $SOME_GNOME_PROGRAM > and it will also remove Gnome (if you let it); Ditto KDE. Gnome and KDE are metapackage which have no contents. They exist only to pull in all the real packages they depend on. Once that is done

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and > > dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . > > There is only one package manager in Debian: Dpkg. Apt is a > dependency-resolving library that runs on top of Dpkg.

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread John Hasler
> It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and > dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . There is only one package manager in Debian: Dpkg. Apt is a dependency-resolving library that runs on top of Dpkg. Apt-get, Aptitude, and Synaptic are front-en

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/06 19:26, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:13:27PM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and >> dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synapt

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:13:27PM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi Folks, > > It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and > dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . > To what extent do these tools understand the same data, i.e. to what > extent c

Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi Folks, It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . To what extent do these tools understand the same data, i.e. to what extent can one mix and match between them? I notice some confusion (someone else's