Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-18 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 02:10:20PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > > > > If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running > > > unstable. > > > > If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work, > > debian i

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1999-03-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 01:10:44PM -0800, David Bristel wrote: > This is a good point, and it actually leads to an interesting idea > for a package that would take care of this issue. Now, this is NOT > an easy project, but, what about a package that has a list of the > config files for ALL the pa

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-18 Thread Robert Woodcock
Seth, If you want support information like this sugar-coated, you can write it yourself, you can run it through debian-publicity first, you can make it however you want. I really don't care. Just so *someone* writes it and posts it to the appropriate lists. That's being part of the solution. -- R

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-18 Thread Randy Edwards
>> If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running >> unstable. > If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work, > debian is going to end up a toy distribution which is only suitable for > work on systems which aren't appropriate for real work. I agree wh

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 02:19:05PM -0500, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work, > debian is going to end up a toy distribution which is only suitable for > work on systems which aren't appropriate for real work. > > Think about it. S

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread David Bristel
EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on > hold? Get ldso from slink... > Resent-Date: 17 Mar 1999 20:22:15 - >

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread renfro
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > Okay, let's not turn this into a flame war. My point is that > breakages in unstable are *REALLY BAD THINGS*. I have no intention of flaming anybody; from my standpoint, at least, everything I say is sober and reasonable. Everyone else's opini

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Seth M. Landsman
> > > If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running > > > unstable. > > > > If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work, > > debian is going to end up a toy distribution which is only suitable for > > work on systems which aren't appropriate for real

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread renfro
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > > If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running > > unstable. > > If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work, > debian is going to end up a toy distribution which is only suitable for > work on syste

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Seth M. Landsman
> > May be these chickens are people who have some work to do. These sarcasms > > or > > those of Edward Betts will not convince people that Debian is a serious > > distribution, intended for real work. > > > > If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running > unstable.

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 11:16:18AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Sunday 14 March 1999, at 16 h 57, the keyboard of Robert Woodcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those of you who are tracking unstable but are too chicken to install the > > new glibc 2.1 may have noticed that your ldd

Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 11:16:18AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > May be these chickens are people who have some work to do. These sarcasms or > those of Edward Betts will not convince people that Debian is a serious > distribution, intended for real work. Quite frankly, unstable isn't some

Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sunday 14 March 1999, at 16 h 57, the keyboard of Robert Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of you who are tracking unstable but are too chicken to install the > new glibc 2.1 may have noticed that your ldd has disappeared. May be these chickens are people who have some work to do. T

Re: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-15 Thread Mike Merten
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 02:44:51PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 04:57:05PM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote: > > The solution is to downgrade the ldso package to the one in slink, or > > actually take the plunge to glibc 2.1. > > so what's likely to break if i upgrade to glibc

Re: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 02:44:51PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 04:57:05PM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote: > > The solution is to downgrade the ldso package to the one in slink, or > > actually take the plunge to glibc 2.1. > > so what's likely to break if i upgrade to glibc

Re: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 02:44:51PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > The solution is to downgrade the ldso package to the one in slink, or > > actually take the plunge to glibc 2.1. > > so what's likely to break if i upgrade to glibc 2.1? will i still be > left with a (mostly) usable system? > > (i

Re: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 04:57:05PM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote: > The solution is to downgrade the ldso package to the one in slink, or > actually take the plunge to glibc 2.1. so what's likely to break if i upgrade to glibc 2.1? will i still be left with a (mostly) usable system? (i'm willing t

Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-15 Thread Robert Woodcock
Those of you who are tracking unstable but are too chicken to install the new glibc 2.1 may have noticed that your ldd has disappeared. That's because /usr/bin/ldd moved from the ldso package to the libc6 package. Therefore if you're using a new ldso package and an old libc6 package, you won't hav