Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:09:04PM +, T o n g wrote: Hi, I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/07/maillist.html -- Religion is excellent

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:36:52PM +, T o n g wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:30 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: To hold a Debian package not to be updated by apt-get echo $package hold | dpkg --set-selections Please note that such holding will not work for aptitude. . . I just

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:54:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-aptitude This needs update. This

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 8/27/2010 9:52 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594512 I just updates most gross errors in CVS so updated page will show up soon. Ah yes. The page should describe more of why aptitude vs apt-get, and let the user decide. -- . O . O . O . . O O

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:08:10PM +, T o n g wrote: First of all, sorry that I miss read your meaning. On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:47:30 -0400, Anticept . wrote: Can apt-get hold back package updates like aptitude? This might be one of them. Yes, it can, but it's done at the dpkg

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:13:26PM +, s. keeling wrote: T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I've not read your link. Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog post on the many reasons to use

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:08:10PM +, T o n g wrote: First of all, sorry that I miss read your meaning. On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:47:30 -0400, Anticept . wrote: Can apt-get hold back package updates like aptitude? This might be one of them. Yes, it can, but it's done at the dpkg

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 19:23, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog post on the many reasons

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-aptitude This needs update. This is very old. Why is this old? What is out-of-date? -- . O . O .

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:51:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: Aside, can you post another blog (or another thread here) about why you use both Ubuntu and Debian? http://pthree.org/2009/02/19/server-migration-from-ubuntu-804-to-debian-50/ Long story short- Debian does a better job at package

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:59, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:51:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: Aside, can you post another blog (or another thread here) about why you use both Ubuntu and Debian?

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread owens
Original Message From: tom.brow...@gmail.com To: aaron.topo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:51:29 -0500 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 19:23, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: I used to use

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:30 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: To hold a Debian package not to be updated by apt-get echo $package hold | dpkg --set-selections Please note that such holding will not work for aptitude. . . I just tested. It worked for me. Please elaborate a bit more. What

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread s. keeling
Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:13:26PM +, s. keeling wrote: T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 27 aug 10, 01:07:22, s. keeling wrote: I've my own complaints about pkg managers (*everything* drags in CUPS!) Package managers are not responsible by the dependencies set by individual packages. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Anticept .
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM, T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. thanks [1]

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:16:44 -0400, Anticept . wrote: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. . . . There is no reason that these two can't be mixed. Aptitude, however, keeps track of packages

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Anticept .
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:21 PM, T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:16:44 -0400, Anticept . wrote: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. . . . There is no reason

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread s. keeling
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I've not read your link. Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying essentially yes. aptitude (I thimk) logs more of its actions than does apt-get,

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog post on the many reasons to use aptitude over apt: http://pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-17, David penned: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:35:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-02-17, David penned: Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted right.. but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has been received - bug #233129

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-17 Thread David
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:35:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-02-17, David penned: Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted right.. but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has been received - bug #233129 Have you looked into the

mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread David
I primarily use aptitude for my updates now, but there seems to be one catch for my particular usage. I'm on dialup, and often wish to do my update and download my files at late night or other times when we don't use the phone lines. I desire to use a script such as this :

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:13:28AM -0600, David said However, it seems that aptitude always exits with status 0 regardless of what's happened. FWIW, I've filed a wishlist bugreport in this regard. Ah, cool. Now, would it be the same to use apt-get for at least the update Yup. , or

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread David
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:41:49PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:13:28AM -0600, David said However, it seems that aptitude always exits with status 0 regardless of what's happened. FWIW, I've filed a wishlist bugreport in this regard. Ah, cool. Well.. I _just now_

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-17, David penned: Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted right.. but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has been received - bug #233129 Have you looked into the reportbug utility? Takes all the effort out of putting together a proper debian