Thanks to all those that helped get my internet connection working.
AFAICT the Guru router seems to be replying with malformed packets on the
DNS, just what that means I don't know at this stage, but my other machines
seem to connect OK.
All i have done basically is list the router 3rd and put
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:42:44PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
I can ping external addresses traceroute finds them it just appears to be
the web browsers that can't.
Anybody got any idea?
My guess would be that there's either a setting or a remembered but
untweakable config that is trying
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 10:15:05PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
I've swapped the order round WAHOO it appears to be working.
I have had them in different orders before now but think the ldresd may
still have been interfering.
I've put the router at the bottom of the list for now until i
OK I've reinstalled Debian 4.0r2, removed network-manager, dhcdbd, and the
libnm-glib0 and libnm-util0 stuff.
I have a static IP 10.0.0.6 255.255.255.0
There are NO proxies running anywhere that i'm aware of.
I have 3 other machines connected to this 4 port router all which can
connect ok have
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OK I've reinstalled Debian 4.0r2, removed network-manager, dhcdbd, and the
libnm-glib0 and libnm-util0 stuff.
[snip]
/etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 10,.0.0.254 // router nameserver
What's that comma
Tony writes:
What's that comma doing there?
Also note that all nameserver lines after the first three will be ignored,
and your domain and search lines are at best useless: remove them.
I hope that the // delimited comments are not actually in the file.
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OK I've reinstalled Debian 4.0r2, removed network-manager, dhcdbd, and the
libnm-glib0 and libnm-util0 stuff.
I have a static IP 10.0.0.6 255.255.255.0
There are NO proxies running anywhere that i'm aware of.
I have 3 other machines
On 17 Feb, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the other machines in your LAN ping 10.0.0.6 ?
yes, no problem
A few days ago, upon routine (daily) upgrading with Synaptic, I
discovered that network-manager (which previously was not working
correctly on this machine) was obtaining a
On 17 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's that comma doing there?
typo
also other typo
#ip address shows eth0 shows 10.0.0.7 when it is actually 10.0.0.6
Also note that all nameserver lines after the first three will be
ignored, and your domain and search lines are at best
Looking in /etc/nsswitch.conf
I have a line
hosts:files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
I presume this is the order used to find hosts... and does it look correct?
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Mitch writes:
Looking in /etc/nsswitch.conf
I have a line
hosts:files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
I presume this is the order used to find hosts... and does it look
correct?
Change it to:
hosts: files dns
Also get rid of avahi-daemon if you have it. That mdns stuff
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 06:16:00PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
Looking in /etc/nsswitch.conf
I have a line
hosts:files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
I presume this is the order used to find hosts... and does it look correct?
Hhhm, I have:
hosts: files dns
You
On 17 Feb, Tony van der Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's that comma doing there?
typo, since I've not got the network working yet!
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Hhhm, I have:
hosts: files dns
You could at least try putting 'dns' immediately after 'files'.
had tried before, now looks like that
The only thing I can find related to mdns (and which seems relevant
here) is avahi-daemon,
Mitch Crawford wrote:
I _DON'T_ think this _IS_ a dns issue anymore.
I can ping external addresses traceroute finds them it just appears to be
the web browsers that can't.
Anybody got any idea
Check the browser's configuration? (Proxies and the like?)
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Ok, I noticed when the machine booted, a lwresd ( lightweight resolver
daemon) which appears to be running as well as bind ?
What DNS services should be running? or are multiple ones compatable with
each other?
How do I check for clashes etc ?
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:12:03PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
OK I've reinstalled Debian 4.0r2, removed network-manager, dhcdbd, and the
libnm-glib0 and libnm-util0 stuff.
I have a static IP 10.0.0.6 255.255.255.0
There are NO proxies running anywhere that i'm aware of.
I have 3 other
I _DON'T_ think this _IS_ a dns issue anymore.
I can ping external addresses traceroute finds them it just appears to be
the web browsers that can't.
Anybody got any idea?
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OK I've reinstalled Debian 4.0r2, removed network-manager, dhcdbd, and the
libnm-glib0 and libnm-util0 stuff.
I have a static IP 10.0.0.6 255.255.255.0
There are NO proxies running anywhere that i'm aware of.
I have 3 other machines connected to this 4 port router all
Where did you get those nameserver IPs?
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This to me suggests that you have a dns related issue. I'd check to make
sure you have no entries in /etc/hosts for 1.0.0.0 , then you check
your nameservers each by: host ftp.debian.org 10.0.0.254 , then replace
the 10.0.0.254 with each dns server
On 16 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mitch writes:
Why I want static IP addresses so don't want DHCP turned on.
Then you are going to have to get the IP numbers of your ISP's
nameservers and put them in /etc/resolv.conf.
Done that
/etc/resolv.conf
domain local.net
nameserver
On 15 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf
package zeroconf is not installed, so not removed.
On 15 Feb, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just try aptitude purge zeroconf.
the following packages have been kept back:
linux-image-2.6.-486
0 packages
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:13:00AM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 14 Feb, Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
right now there are these 3 scripts:
S38resolvconf
S39ifupdown
S40networking
I havn't got S38 ?
Don't worry about it. The resolvconf package is not
Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf
package zeroconf is not installed, so not removed.
On 15 Feb, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just try aptitude purge zeroconf.
the following packages have been kept back:
OK I've tried setting up the dhcp server and am still having similar
results so I've gone back to fixed IP nos.
I can ping local machines by name number
I can ping www.debian.org
using the web browser epiphany i can't connect using the IP no for
debian.org or by name.
the browser iceweasel
On 15 Feb, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you aren't using ipv6 you can disable it by adding :
alias ipv6 off
to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
ok done that.
whats the out put of:
ip address show dev eth0
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
link/ether
Mitch Crawford wrote:
OK I've tried setting up the dhcp server and am still having similar
results so I've gone back to fixed IP nos.
I can ping local machines by name number
I can ping www.debian.org
using the web browser epiphany i can't connect using the IP no for
debian.org or by name.
ok i've rebooted and now have:
ip route show
10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0 protp kernel scope link src 10.0.0.6
default via 10.0.0.254 dev eth0
or if you dont have the iproute2 package installed
ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:4C:69:13:15
inet addr:10.0.0.6 Bcast
Mitch Crawford wrote:
ok i've rebooted and now have:
ip route show
10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0 protp kernel scope link src 10.0.0.6
default via 10.0.0.254 dev eth0
or if you dont have the iproute2 package installed
ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:4C:69:13:15
inet
On 15 Feb, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, that all looks good, is everything working now?
No
ping?
seems to be fine names IP nos.
browsing web?
I canconnect to www.debian.org and www.google.co.uk
serching google for debian comes up with a list, i can select connect to
a link
Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, that all looks good, is everything working now?
No
ping?
seems to be fine names IP nos.
browsing web?
I canconnect to www.debian.org and www.google.co.uk
serching google for debian comes up with a list, i can select
On 15 Feb, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, you can ping www.debian.org by IP and name?
yes
But you can't browse to it via web browser?
I have just rebooted
browsing www.debian.org has just connected
connecting to the ping returned ip no connectes it to apache on this
machine.
But you
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Modules are supposed to get loaded with the module-inittools script well
before the networking scripts.
I also wouldn't edit the scripts to, for example, to insert a delay.
Instead, I would write a delay script in /etc/init.d and symlink it
On 15 Feb, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, it looks like you might have a dns issue now. I would suggest you
verify your dns settings in /etc/resolv.conf. It should look something
like this:
search your.domain
nameserver 1.3.5.7
nameserver 2.4.6.8
I've got
nameserver 10.0.0.254
On Thu February 14 2008, Jeff D wrote:
wouldn't you think ifupdown would come after networking?
No, you would need to bring up your interfaces, or at least check to see
if they are there before you set up your networking. But, I would leave
the numbering of the init scripts as is, having
Ok i've rebooted again and still the same.
I've looked in /etc/networks and it has a line
link-local 169.254.0.0
what is this for, as this was nearly the ip i get when the network connects
to the router and gets its own ip. (169.254.176.243)]
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Ok i've rebooted again and still the same.
I've looked in /etc/networks and it has a line link-local 169.254.0.0
what is this for, as this was nearly the ip i get when the network
connects to the router and gets its own ip. (169.254.176.243)]
I've been
I've tried deactivating eth0 and rebooted. the program NetworkManager
Applet 0.6.4 connects with active connection ,the IP no is169.254.176.243
as per the link-local setting.
Again i can connect with the browser only to www.debian.org but now i can't
ping local machines or internet addresses.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 09:53:18AM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
OK I've tried setting up the dhcp server and am still having similar
results so I've gone back to fixed IP nos.
I thought you said that the router was the DHCP server and that the
debian box we're working on should use DHCP (as a
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:15:59AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
this is also probably why I keep seeing errors about unable to set the system
clock via ntp. no network=no ntp
Never heard of network=no ntp.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:46:35PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
I've tried deactivating eth0 and rebooted. the program NetworkManager
Applet 0.6.4 connects with active connection ,the IP no is169.254.176.243
as per the link-local setting.
Again i can connect with the browser only to
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:29:27AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
/etc/resolv.conf:
nameserver 192.168.10.1
What box is this^^?
:/etc# cat networks
default 0.0.0.0
loopback 127.0.0.0
link-local169.254.0.0
what is this ^^^
It sounds like your box
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 09:36:48AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
so I rebooted and tried to put in your init=/bin/sh but no matter where I put
it, I got errors, so I tried booting into 2.6.18-6 single user mode. ifonfig
then showed eth0 active and working!
The init=/bin/sh goes as a
On Fri February 15 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
this is also probably why I keep seeing errors about unable to set the
system clock via ntp. no network=no ntp
Never heard of network=no ntp.
what I meant
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought you said that the router was the DHCP server and that the
debian box we're working on should use DHCP (as a __client__).
I think it is Paul that is having simialr problems
No this is a fresh install of debian 4.0r2. I have tried
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:17:33AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:29:27AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
/etc/resolv.conf:
nameserver 192.168.10.1
What box is this^^?
It looks to me the consumer broadband router which also serves as DHCP
and local
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
OK, initscripts; something to work on step by step.
Here's what I'm hearing.
1. Power off
2. Power on
3. Boot progresses, init runs
4. system comes up but network doesn't come up
5. ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 brings the
On Fri February 15 2008, Osamu Aoki wrote:
link-local 169.254.0.0
what is this ^^^
Per google and wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
Quite normal though.
I have not read the context but this is FYI.
ok, this seems to tell me when my eth0 is not
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 03:00:01PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought you said that the router was the DHCP server and that the
debian box we're working on should use DHCP (as a __client__).
I think it is Paul that is having simialr
On Fri February 15 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
so I rebooted and tried to put in your init=/bin/sh but no matter where I
put it, I got errors, so I tried booting into 2.6.18-6 single user mode.
ifonfig then showed eth0 active and working!
The init=/bin/sh goes as a kernel command line
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can only use fixed IP if the router to which you are connecting is
under your control as well. If it will only use DHCP then you have to
use it for the network connection between this box and the router.
I think the router uses DHCP to
On Fri February 15 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
/etc/resolv.conf:
nameserver 192.168.10.1
What box is this^^?
that is my netgear wireless router WGR614 V6
:/etc# cat networks
default 0.0.0.0
loopback 127.0.0.0
link-local169.254.0.0
what is
On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 12:13:23AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:17:33AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 07:29:27AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
/etc/resolv.conf:
nameserver 192.168.10.1
What box is this^^?
It looks to me
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:05:10AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri February 15 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
link-local169.254.0.0
?
?what is this ? ^^^
beats the HLL out of me!
It sounds like your box has conflicting config tools installed. ?If you
are using dhcp,
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, we'll start from here.
thanks
Have you removed NetworkManager?
no, how do i do that ?
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:56:20PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, we'll start from here.
thanks
Have you removed NetworkManager?
no, how do i do that ?
With aptitude.
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I'm a bit confused.
Do we have two peopl with networking
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:15:30PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Mitch writes:
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address,
You probably have zeroconf installed. Remove it.
network-manager used to screw setups as well. If you use
/etc/network/interfaces to configure
On 15 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mitch Crawford wrote:
DHCP server is OFF in the router.
Well, turn it back on and make sure you have a dhcp client running on
the Debian box (Network-manager purports to do this). -- John Hasler
Why I want static IP addresses so don't want DHCP
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:31:19PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
We need a proper network layout with IP addresses, router settings, etc.
ISP
|
4 Port ethernet Router 10.0.0.254 / 255.255.255.0
| | | |
| | | Acorn RiscPC 10.0.0.1 / 255.255.255.0
| |
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:47:15AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri February 15 2008, Osamu Aoki wrote:
link-local 169.254.0.0
what is this ^^^
Per google and wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
Quite normal though.
I have not read
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:34:48PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:56:20PM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, we'll start from here.
thanks
Have you removed NetworkManager?
no, how do i do that ?
With
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you removed NetworkManager?
no, how do i do that ?
With aptitude.
what would the command be ? (I have no idea)
I'm a bit confused.
Do we have two peopl with networking troubles using the same thread?
Mitch Crawford AND Paul
Mitch Crawford wrote:
DHCP server is OFF in the router.
Well, turn it back on and make sure you have a dhcp client running on the
Debian box (Network-manager purports to do this).
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On Fri February 15 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
If necessary, pull out everything that is not basic. Since you
installed from CD without networking, you'll still have the packages.
I'd even go so far as to ensure that you have a backup of /etc/ before
you start then purge everything you
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you removed NetworkManager?
no, how do i do that ?
With aptitude.
Ok, Done that, now what
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Why I want static IP addresses so don't want DHCP turned on.
Then you are going to have to get the IP numbers of your ISP's nameservers
and put them in /etc/resolv.conf. You'll need to get rid of any packages
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OK, I can ping local external sites.
I still can't browse by name, but entering the IP no in the browser allows
me to connect to some sites.
I've added more ISP dns numbers to /etc/resolv.conf
I've still no idea what's wrong :-(
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I'm having problems with a new installation 4.0r2
I can't get the machine to connect out using the browser.
I can ping local machines ( i've set up hosts file use fixed ip nos only
in the 10.0.0.x 255.255.255.0 range)
I can ping debian.org ok, it gives 192.25.206.10 as an ip no so the dns
* Mitch Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080214 03:42]:
I'm having problems with a new installation 4.0r2
I can't get the machine to connect out using the browser.
I can ping local machines ( i've set up hosts file use fixed ip nos only
in the 10.0.0.x 255.255.255.0 range)
I can ping
On 14 Feb, Mitch Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm having problems with a new installation 4.0r2
I can't get the machine to connect out using the browser.
I can ping local machines ( i've set up hosts file use fixed ip nos only
in the 10.0.0.x 255.255.255.0 range)
I can ping debian.org
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:21:40AM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
Just to follow up my own thread, I've tracked it down to a clash between
network settings network tools devices.
I'm just connecting through eth1 my PCI 1G network card.
In Network tools device eth0 and eth1 are both
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Its also very confusing to someone who has used Linux for years. What
the heck is Network tools, Network settings. Icon?
The network is configured in /etc/network/interfaces. Plain old text
file.
I have a similar problem. I am running
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:14:53AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I have a similar problem. I am running Debian Etch:
# uname -a
Linux paulandcilla 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 22:11:31 UTC 2008 i686
GNU/Linux
with the latest updates.
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
My guess is that in your particular installation, there is a conflict of
boot dependancies, e.g. networking can't start until a module is loaded
but that happens in a later init script. This manual booting procedure
will track this down. Then
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:03:17PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
My guess is that in your particular installation, there is a conflict of
boot dependancies, e.g. networking can't start until a module is loaded
but that happens in a later init
Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Thu February 14 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
My guess is that in your particular installation, there is a conflict of
boot dependancies, e.g. networking can't start until a module is loaded
but that happens in a later init script. This manual booting procedure
will
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:14:53AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
OK, initscripts; something to work on step by step.
Here's what I'm hearing.
1. Power off
2. Power on
3. Boot progresses, init runs
4. system comes up but network doesn't come up
5.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 05:42:24AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:14:53AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I have faced the same problem for a cluster running Etch. It had
something to do with the network driver being loaded when dhclient
On 14 Feb, Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
right now there are these 3 scripts:
S38resolvconf
S39ifupdown
S40networking
I havn't got S38 ?
What I have found is that if I disable the network re enable it I do get
a connection from the wired network.
I'm guessing
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
There are several problems like this which can crop up. The only way I
know to identify the problem, if it isn't obvious from the boot logs, is
to do as I suggested and run the initscripts one at a time from
init=/bin/sh.
I never really considered a 'manual' boot-up
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address, where
is this coming from, the router or the ISP ?
I can't connect using any other method or settings.
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:54:09AM +, Mitch Crawford wrote:
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address, where
is this coming from, the router or the ISP ?
I can't connect using any other method or settings.
Your network setup is not obvious. Give us an
On 15 Feb, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
internet - ISP - router - [your computer] - your network
and I assume that we are then discussing [your computer].
The debian, all the others are working fine
internet - ISP-router-- Debian box
|--- Win
Mitch writes:
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address,
You probably have zeroconf installed. Remove it.
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ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address,
You probably have zeroconf installed. Remove it.
Where does it live ?
Search can't find it
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Mitch wrote:
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address,
I wrote:
You probably have zeroconf installed. Remove it.
Mitch writes:
Where does it live ? Search can't find it
I don't know what you mean by Search but it doesn't matter. Just do
sudo apt-get remove
Mitch Crawford wrote:
On 15 Feb, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ifconfig is showing inet6 addr with the 169.254.176.243 net address,
You probably have zeroconf installed. Remove it.
Where does it live ?
Search can't find it
Just try aptitude purge zeroconf.
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