Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Joseph Haig
--- Tim Ruehsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. Many people say so, but it is not true. Ext2 takes some

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Duncan Anderson
Tim Ruehsen wrote: snip Jiann-Ming Su posted a link, which talks about two possibilities to defragment your discs: either use defrag (but make a backup before!) or just make a backup, clean your partitions and restore the backup. I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for

Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Ian
I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this?-- If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice?

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy) wrote: Unless I am mistaken, there is no defrag utility for linux. Anyone have anything to add? Defragging on a Linux system is generally unnecessary; therefore there's no utility for the task. -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Joseph Haig
--- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Florian Dorpmueller
I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? Normally this is not necessary. But if you want you can use defrag. Flori -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Ian
Thanks for the help, and sorry for my newbish lack of knowledge.-- If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice?

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy)
Not a problem. If you don't ASK, you don't GET. -Jason From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:42 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive? Thanks for the help, and sorry for my newbish

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Ruehsen
You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. Many people say so, but it is not true. Ext2 takes some precautions to reduce fragmentation a bit (in

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Philippe Grenard
Le Mardi 23 Août 2005 17:24, Ian a écrit : I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? well, with linux, i believe you just don't have to defrag your partitions... so don't worry about that anymore ;-)

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread garaged
On 8/23/05, Tim Ruehsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. Many people say so, but it is not true. Ext2 takes

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Michal Simovic
don't know, if there is a defrag utility for linux, but first of all you should realize that after few months there is probably no need to defragment. linux filesystems like ext3 get fragmented a lot lot less than FAT32 or NTFS as far as i know. besides there is certainly a method that

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Joe Smith
- Original Message - From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive? Defragging on a Linux system is generally unnecessary; therefore there's no utility for the task

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Tim
In gmane.linux.debian.user Ian wrote: I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? Here's the best explanation of the topic that I have seen so far. Credit goes to Lew Pitcher:

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Dave Ewart
(V)FAT), but ext2 can't prevent it. And it is not a feature of 'Linux' it is a feature of the filesystem. With this in mind, selecting a suitable partitioning scheme can minimize any fragmentation issues. For example, areas of the filesystem with a large turnover of files can cause serious

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Smithe
On 8/23/05, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In gmane.linux.debian.user Ian wrote: I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? Here's the best explanation of the topic that I have seen so far. Credit goes to Lew

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:24 am, Ian wrote: I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? You can't, and you shouldn't need to. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:49 am, Tim Ruehsen wrote: I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10 hours a day, making updates every day) and my system booted about 30% faster. Now, after a year or so, it seems to be time to do it again (booting became slower and slower).

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/23/05, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:49 am, Tim Ruehsen wrote: I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10 hours a day, making updates every day) and my system booted about 30% faster. Now, after a year or so, it seems to be

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Glenn English
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 14:11 -0500, Gary Smithe wrote: Don't hang me (or flame me) for this, but some Microsoft based speculation. No prob. All this applies to CP/M and the Apple ][ OS, too. -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG ID: D0D7FF20 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Tim Ruehsen wrote: You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. Many people say so, but it is not true. Ext2 takes some precautions to reduce

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:19:55 -0400 kamaraju kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: post your df -h output? I have a feeling that defragmenting an ext2/ext3 partition does not increase performance if the partitions are not heavily filled up. But I could be wrong. I'm skeptical that it would

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:38:29 +0200 Michal Simovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, if there is a defrag utility for linux, but first of all you should realize that after few months there is probably no need to Under most circumstances yes. I've been running linux for years, but managed