On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:38:26 +0100, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT), Tong Sun wrote:
>> Ok, trying again, posting from yahaoo directly...
>>
>> Subject: Re: urgent help
>> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user Date:Sat, 07 Aug 2004
>> 15:17:17 -0400
>>
>> Wh
On 8 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (base-system + essential packages, and are now installing
> more according to our needs...)
An inquiring mind wants to know...
Does your "more" include the X Window System...?
Oki
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Engelen wrote:
> Apt is cool for web-installs and installing something when you exactly know
> what package you want installed.
If you have the CDs and a web server, you can change your sources.list
to point to the server; then you'd get a web-install environment.
(I don't h
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:
> > Why don't you debianize the package or create a fake one that provides the
> > debian-package equivalent of what you locally installed ?
>
> Ah, I should have known there is a proper way to do this. This had briefly
> occured to me, but I've neve
> > A package state that tells the package managers that "the functionality of
> > this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed"
>
> Look into the equivs package. Or, dive into the docs and see how to make
> a [empty] package (you really only need 4 or 5 files and a few
> dire
> >
> >
> > A package state that tells the package managers that "the functionality of
> > this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed"
>
> Why don't you debianize the package or create a fake one that provides the
> debian-package equivalent of what you locally installed ?
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:34:23PM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote:
>
>
>
> A package state that tells the package managers that "the functionality of
> this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed"
Look into the equivs package. Or, dive into the docs and see how to make
a
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:
> What I don't like about apt/dselect is how they treat packages locally
> compiled from source tarball. I couldn't find an option to really ignore
> dependencies and do what I say.
>
> Specifically, if I want "esound-alsa" but have compiled the ALSA
> You've not answered the question.
Apologies in advance for sending an attachment to a mailing list but didn't
want to delay in creating an HTML file.
This is based on what I saw for RedHat 6.1 for some of their screens.
Regards,
Will
<>
> Not really; the whole thing is presented as a problem but it doesn't
show
> you clearly what it's done to try to resolve it, nor does it let you
> accept/reject some of those changes in "blocks". Simple example.. I
> selected gnome-admin for install, and I get a conflict screen which
looks
> a
> > > My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
> > > vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies,
versions,
> > > file locations, etc, etc... It does it
> > > fairly well and it does it accurately.
>
> Which doesn't explain why there is a project to
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:02:40AM +, Richard Taylor wrote:
> Ummm... how does your dselect work? Mine does pretty much what you've
> described above.
Not really; the whole thing is presented as a problem but it doesn't show
you clearly what it's done to try to resolve it, nor does it le
No wonder we found Debian difficult for us:
We're just newbies!
So then we tried installing Debian again, and after carefully
making our steps... we finally managed to install it!
(base-system + essential packages, and are now installing
more according to our needs...)
We're really g
On 4/7/2000, 10:00:40 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: no
wonder...:
> > What could be more intuitive?
> Something that works. Your statement highlights the reason that when I
ask
> for directions on how to drive somewhere, I will NOT ask someone that has
>
On 4/7/2000, 10:56:59 PM, "loki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
Re: no wonder...:
> On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:48:18AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
> > > My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what ca
Once upon a time, I heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say
> Another thing that would be very helpful (and perhaps it exists and I
> just have not yet found it) would be an easy way to just back up to
> where one was a moment before, but not all the way to the beginning.
> So, say you see a package on the l
Once upon a time, I heard John Hasler say
> Before proceeding to install and remove marked packages dselect (and
> aptitude) should put up a menu listing all the proposed changes and
> offering the user the choice of
For dselect,
> Proceed to install and remove marked packages
Select 3. [
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:48:18AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
> > My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
> > vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies, versions,
> > file locations, etc, etc... It does it
>
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 01:41:56PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> 1. Nothing's difficult about selecting things from a menu. It's when those
> selections
> bring up other screens wanting to add/delete other things, which affect other
> things,
> which makes the user want to get out, and none of the k
>> which makes the user want to get out, and none of the keystrokes seem to
work like a
>> beginner (not someone who has read the docs and EXPERIENCED the
experience) would
>> expect. There's just a host of things that are difficult about deselect
and apt.
AMEN! I just reformated the HD with Debi
Oki writes:
> But of course, it has to be followed up with explanations of the things
> that could be improved, or at least with something that the complainer
> would like to have or see.
Before proceeding to install and remove marked packages dselect (and
aptitude) should put up a menu listing al
On 7 Apr, Kent West wrote:
> Richard Taylor wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
>> no
>> > On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > > No wonder people say that Debian is the most di
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
> My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
> vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies, versions,
> file locations, etc, etc... It does it
> fairly well and it does it accurately.
I think the problem in
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Kent West wrote:
> 2. Would the list members please stop ragging on newbies just because
> the newbie expresses some frustration at not knowing how to accomplish
> something? It's not that
I think saying "this is difficult" is not enough; it doesn't provide new
information
On 4/7/2000, 1:41:56 PM, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: no
wonder...:
> Richard Taylor wrote:
> > On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
> > > On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > No
Richard Taylor wrote:
> On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
> no
> > On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> > > Unix-clone distro to install and use...
>
On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
no
> On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> > Unix-clone distro to install and use...
> ...
> > Another thing, is the dselect program
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> Unix-clone distro to install and use...
...
> Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> difficult to use...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist
A person from ITB
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> Unix-clone distro to install and use...
What kind of people are they...?
What kind of difficulties you have?
> Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
> (as I have notic
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:44:51AM +0200, Paolo Pedaletti wrote:
> and what about aptitude (console) % gnome-apt (X) ?
Well, aptitude is help-system free and has no affordances, making it
on first sight identical in difficulty to dselect. I don't have
GNOME installed so probably can't use gnome-
Ciao Carl Fink,
> > > Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> > > difficult to use...
> >
> > Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
> > But what dselect disguises is an excellent package management tool.
> > You might find apt a better front-end to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> Unix-clone distro to install and use...
>
> Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
> (as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as
> FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there
Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some
> kind of way to
> have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and
> link to wider
> explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the
> system,
That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some kind of
way to
have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and link to
wider
explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the system, without
needing to surf the debian site. Especially whe
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:09:04PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> > difficult to use...
>
> Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
> But what dselect disguises is an e
On 05 Apr 2000, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Regarding the support:
> I would not be so quick to say so. Debian is full of people that will help
> you to the
> best of their ability (and believe me, their ability is not a little one)
> without ever
> asking anything in return. Debian is also loaded
, what then will be?
Try man apt-get; and man dpkg (or info instead of man)
Good luck.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> Unix-clone distro to install and use...
>
> Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
> (as I have notic
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> Unix-clone distro to install and use...
Thanks for making contact with us here. I presume you've found
your first experiences a little hard. I hope you stick wth us,
when you&#x
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
(as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as
FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
for me to download Debian sources for my
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