On 12/01/2010 03:52 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 30 Nov 2010, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Yes, it is obviously changing. These days it is preferred to use,
"proved," as the past participle of prove instead of, "proven." The
same goes for, "strived." To me it seems that language change is,
therefo
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 13:08:43 Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> I do not think that the quoted sentence is ambiguous and would rather
> consider it to be a fine example of a very concise and elegant
> statement.
+1
Thank you, Wolodja, for putting it so much more elegantly than I did. :-)
Lisi
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 13:08 +, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:51 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > by US native speakers of English. I was taught that "it" refers to
> > the most recent prior noun.
> ii. Takeshi parked his car in the garage after driving it around ...
>
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:51 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20101130_124754, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> > > If the logfile is not accessible,
> > > the messages will be kept in memory until it is.
> I am a native speaker of US English. I think the rules that I learned
> many years ago for
On 11/30/2010 09:07 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:33:42 -0600
John Hasler wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard writes:
Yes, it is obviously changing. These days it is preferred to use,
"proved," as the past participle of prove instead of, "proven." The
same goes for, "strived." To me i
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 12:21:28 Lisi wrote:
> hear
how come no-one has shot me?? :-(
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:51:44 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I am a native speaker of US English. I think the rules that I learned
> many years ago for the proper use of the word "it" are mostly violated
> by US native speakers of English. I was taught that "it" refers to the
> most recent prior nou
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 05:55:44 Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20101130_183342, John Hasler wrote:
> > Cybe R. Wizard writes:
> > > Having been taught the same rule, I also find the sentence nonsensical
> > > and for that same reason.
> >
> > I was also taught that rule.
It looks to me as though
On Tuesday 30 November 2010 13:51:44 Paul E Condon wrote:
> I am a native speaker of US English.
"Two peoples separated by a common language". ;-)
Lisi
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On Tuesday 30 November 2010 19:10:45 David Jardine wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:38:34PM +, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 November 2010 12:22:57 Regid Ichira wrote:
> > > Consider the following:
> > >
> > > $ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > Bootlogd run
On 30 Nov 2010, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Yes, it is obviously changing. These days it is preferred to use,
> "proved," as the past participle of prove instead of, "proven." The
> same goes for, "strived." To me it seems that language change is,
> therefore, a gived.
>
Well, this is getting cons
On 20101130_183342, John Hasler wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard writes:
> > Having been taught the same rule, I also find the sentence nonsensical
> > and for that same reason.
>
> I was also taught that rule.
>
> > The misuse of pronouns to refer to other than the most recent prior
> > noun is a great g
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:33:42 -0600
John Hasler wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard writes:
> > Having been taught the same rule, I also find the sentence
> > nonsensical and for that same reason.
>
> I was also taught that rule.
>
> > The misuse of pronouns to refer to other than the most recent prior
> >
Cybe R. Wizard writes:
> Having been taught the same rule, I also find the sentence nonsensical
> and for that same reason.
I was also taught that rule.
> The misuse of pronouns to refer to other than the most recent prior
> noun is a great grinding pain to me when others so craft their
> languag
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:51:44 -0700
Paul E Condon wrote:
> I am a native speaker of US English. I think the rules that I learned
> many years ago for the proper use of the word "it" are mostly violated
> by US native speakers of English. I was taught that "it" refers to
> the most recent prior nou
On 20101130_124754, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2010/11/30 Regid Ichira :
> > If the logfile is not accessible,
> > the messages will be kept in memory until it is.
>
> If the logfile is not accessible, the messages will be kept in memory
> until is .
>
> No biggie there. The logfile
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:41:05PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> On 11/30/2010 07:22 AM, Regid Ichira wrote:
> > Consider the following:
> >
> >$ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
> >DESCRIPTION
> >Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent to the
> >/dev/console devi
On 11/30/2010 07:22 AM, Regid Ichira wrote:
Consider the following:
$ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
DESCRIPTION
Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent to the
/dev/console device to a logfile. If the logfile is not accessible,
the messages
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:38:34PM +, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 November 2010 12:22:57 Regid Ichira wrote:
> > Consider the following:
> >
> > $ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
> > DESCRIPTION
> > Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent to the
> > /dev
On Tuesday 30 November 2010 12:22:57 Regid Ichira wrote:
> Consider the following:
>
> $ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
> DESCRIPTION
> Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent to the
> /dev/console device to a logfile. If the logfile is not accessible,
>
Regid Ichira writes:
> I think there is a problem with the 2nd sentence. Doesn't it lacks an
> object? Until when will the messages be kept in memory?
The object is implied. Read the sentence as "If the logfile is not
accessible, the messages will be kept in memory until it is
[accessible]."
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Hi
2010/11/30 Regid Ichira :
> If the logfile is not accessible,
> the messages will be kept in memory until it is.
If the logfile is not accessible, the messages will be kept in memory
until is .
No biggie there. The logfile is your only object there. I'd probably
use "The messages will
Consider the following:
$ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION
DESCRIPTION
Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent to the
/dev/console device to a logfile. If the logfile is not accessible,
the messages will be kept in memory until it is.
I think ther
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