Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-22 Thread John Hasler
David Palmer writes: ...which is quite often the basis for governmental regulation legislation. Except that it appears that in Brazil regulation is the source of the problem. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Karsten, I was having similar issues with some of my email recipients. Are you on a cable modem, dsl, or dialup? If so, you're probably going to have to configure exim to use your ISP's mailserver as a smarthost. - Ryan On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 04:32:57AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: Martin:

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.21.1609 +0200]: I was having similar issues with some of my email recipients. Are you on a cable modem, dsl, or dialup? If so, you're probably going to have to configure exim to use your ISP's mailserver as a smarthost. We have taken

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:42:21 +0200 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.21.1609 +0200]: I was having similar issues with some of my email recipients. Are you on a cable modem, dsl, or dialup? If so, you're probably going to have

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 04:42:21PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: We have taken the discussion up in private. The problem is in fact the dynamic IP of the dialup, which I filter using the dynablock RBL. It just happens that these RBL filter 65% of all my spam before it hits the content

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:32:38PM -0300, Christoph Simon wrote: Unfortunately, there are many private victims for false positives of RBL-like lists, according to them, mostly due to the lack of response from our ISPs. As a matter of fact, I do have a fixed IP but that is taken out of a range

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
If your ISP is being a bitch about it, then switch! Otherwise just relay via their SMTP smarthost and the problem is solved. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `-

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.21.1738 +0200]: reject_rbl_client relays.visi.com, reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org, reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client proxies.relays.monkeys.com, reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org, reject_rbl_client

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:49:21 +0200 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your ISP is being a bitch about it, then switch! Otherwise just relay via their SMTP smarthost and the problem is solved. Living in a country where monopolies are ilegal, I could understand your suggestion.

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 05:49:21PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: If your ISP is being a bitch about it, then switch! Otherwise just relay via their SMTP smarthost and the problem is solved. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of options. And the SMTP smarthost is veeery unreliable. Quite a mess.

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 05:55:20PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I already use all of these (plus ordb.org), but most of the spam (and most of the virus crap) is filtered by dynablock. Did you try putting dynablock at the end of the list, so as to check if some dynablock rejects wouldn't be

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeff McAdams
Also Sprach martin f krafft I don't see why people don't relay via their ISPs. Is there one good reason? Maximum size? FTP! Not always practical...but then, sending large files via e-mail is a crapshoot at best anyway. Aestethics? Colocate! Not sure what you mean by aestethics. Privacy

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Christoph Simon writes: Living in a country where monopolies are ilegal... Which country might that be? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.21.1902 +0200]: Did you try putting dynablock at the end of the list, so as to check if some dynablock rejects wouldn't be caught by the others first? Good point. I will do so now. Anyway -- the situation is a mess, but the point is,

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:01:04 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christoph Simon writes: Living in a country where monopolies are ilegal... Which country might that be? I'm not a lawyer, so I can't offer you a legal definition of a monopoly, but ask Microsoft about their last big

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-09-21T15:49:21Z, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your ISP is being a bitch about it, then switch! Otherwise just relay via their SMTP smarthost and the problem is solved. Martin, First, I've beaten this to death on Slashdot, so I don't want to go into long-winded detail.

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Christoph Simon writes: I'm not a lawyer, so I can't offer you a legal definition of a monopoly, but ask Microsoft about their last big trial and that which still seem to be in process in the EU. Or wasn't that in the end about being a monopoly and taking unfair advantage of it? The latter.

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:52:28 -0300, Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:01:04 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christoph Simon writes: Living in a country where monopolies are ilegal... Which country might that be?

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:19:42 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latter. Having a monopoly is not illegal. Taking unfair advantage of it is. It might not be illegal, but the method to reach/hold it might at least be questionably for a normal citizen. I have only one provider

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:06:53 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any company in the world which can do that without having the status of a monopoly? ..www.telenor.no ? It only has the copper... ;-) Ooops. World seems to be a worse place than I thought. -- Christoph

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Christoph Simon writes: If your only local provider doubles price in a consumer product, what would happen in your area? Nothing in particular, in general. For example, there is only one drugstore in my village. The owner is entirely free to set his prices however he wishes. Same goes for my

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 05:23:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Nothing in particular, in general. For example, there is only one drugstore in my village. The owner is entirely free to set his prices however he wishes. Same goes for my ISP. I think the point is that in Brazil you can't start

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:23:48 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christoph Simon writes: If your only local provider doubles price in a consumer product, what would happen in your area? Nothing in particular, in general. For example, there is only one drugstore in my village.

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Christoph Simon writes: One thing is to double prices and expose them _before_ you pay, and another thing is to double prices you suddenly have to pay in disagreement with a former contract. Maybe you are a lawyer, but for my taste, these things stink like hell. That's got nothing to do with

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Jeronimo Pellegrini writes: I think the point is that in Brazil you can't start offering DSL service. The monopoly is sort of enforced by a regulating agency. And thus we have an example of the evils of regulation, not of the evils of monopoly. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:04:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Jeronimo Pellegrini writes: I think the point is that in Brazil you can't start offering DSL service. The monopoly is sort of enforced by a regulating agency. And thus we have an example of the evils of regulation, not of the

Re: OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-21 Thread David Palmer
On Monday 22 September 2003 05:23, Christoph Simon wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:06:53 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any company in the world which can do that without having the status of a monopoly? ..www.telenor.no ? It only has the copper... ;-) Ooops.

OT: Martin Krafft - mail bouncing

2003-09-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
Martin: Your spam blocking is bouncing my mail: - Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Received: from mail by ganymede.tranquillity.lan with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A0u2r-0006SS-AP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:33:59 +0100